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What Comes Around Goes Around
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Category: Glam/Hard Rock
Catalog Number: 7 82244-2
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Stevie Rachelle lead and backing vocals|
Jorge DeSaint guitars, backing vocals
Todd Chase bass, backing vocals
Michael Lean drums, percussion, backing vocals
|1. ||Ruck a Pitt Bridge |
|2. ||The All New Generation |
|3. ||I Hate Kissing You Good-Bye |
|4. ||Lonely Lucy |
|5. ||Ain't Worth a Dime |
|6. ||So Many Seasons |
|7. ||Forever Yours |
|8. ||Wake Me Up |
|9. ||Spit Like This |
|10. ||Good Guys Wear Black |
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Existing comments about this CD
||Date: April 26, 2001 at 17:16|
|is good album, but one little seems with Poison, but no problem, the songs are cool and happy, they are inside from History of Glam Rock and is the best album from Tuff
||Date: July 5, 2001 at 19:42|
|I LOVE Tuff very much
||Date: July 5, 2001 at 19:45|
|I LOVE SEE TUFF IN CONCERT.
||Date: July 6, 2001 at 18:56|
|Who is open for Tuff.
|From: Derrick yu
||Date: July 6, 2001 at 18:58|
|CAN YOU SEND ME A THIS ALBUM.
|From: Derrick yu
||Date: July 7, 2001 at 7:38|
|I can have Photograph Please of Tuff.
||Date: July 13, 2001 at 18:10|
|In my top10 late 80's AMERICAN HAIR BAND!GREAT FUN Rock N' Roll with very SLEAZY lyrics.This album is full of juvenile ENERGY and contagious melodies,a bottle of pink HAPPINESS you can open each time you feel grey.STEVIE RACHELLE is the perfect singer and the cover is good too!A CLASSIC! (just one question:Why is this band not in the GLAM/sleaze section?)
||Date: August 11, 2001 at 10:18|
|Poison look alikes, but still a great cd. In fact, Bret Michaels wrote track 8 on this cd, Wake Me Up. when I first saw this tape in the music store, I thought it was Bret Michaels with another band. Too Funny!!! I gave this cd an 8.0
||Date: September 12, 2001 at 2:36|
|Oh, T-Bone first time I saw a Tuff pic on a magazine I think the same!!!!!! Tuff is the example of Crue-Poison wannabe band...but they're NOT clones....Well, I think this is the best Tuff album...Lonely Lucy is one of the definitive Glam-Hair Rock tracks of the eightes...I love Stevie Rachelle's vocals...All the songs in this record deserve to be mentioned.... I gave this record an 8.0 What come around is for all you glam-streetwise rockers !!!! Buy or die...
||Date: October 31, 2001 at 19:50|
|You have to check out the song 'American Hair Band' on the new Tuff cd! It is a parody of Kid Rocks' 'American Bad Ass'. You will love it!!!!Oh yeah, this is a good cd too!!!
||Date: February 5, 2002 at 10:27|
|if you liked the song 'all new generation' check out thier song 'an american hairband' off thier new cd 'the history off Tuff'
||Date: February 13, 2002 at 12:29|
|This guys kicked asses!!!!!! Stevie Rachelle is the shit. I love 'The old new generation' and 'Forever yours' songs. I gave this cd an 9.0. In my top 10 forever!!!
||Date: March 26, 2002 at 17:00|
|And how about Ruck a pit bridge?
||Date: April 5, 2002 at 11:40|
|Poison pretenders who are actually a bit heavier, but much weaker songwriters. Nothing really worth a repeat listen, but still better than most similar clones.
||Date: April 27, 2002 at 4:23|
|'Ruck a Pitt Bridge' might be the best song on Tuff's first cd, 'What Comes Around Goes Around', but there are other good tunes as well. Rachelle's voice is a bit gruff sounding & his vocal technique comes across as a combination between Bret Michels (Poison) & Claus Lessmann of Bonfire--not a bad cross. Some of the lyrics contained w/in 'WCAGA' are pretty sappy, but what can you expect from 1st-timers? There are some good rockers here & one very good ballad, 'Wake Me Up'. 8.0/10.
||Date: April 27, 2002 at 4:27|
|Before I go, one intriguing tid-bit: Isn't it hilarious how Stevie mimicks Bret Michael's look and style almost to a science? Posers, maybe. Good musicians, DEFINITELY. Glam fans must own this cd.
||Date: April 27, 2002 at 7:09|
|Actually Dokken6008 is right, but they are very good friends also. Bret wrote the song Wake Me Up for these guys back in the day. If I remember an interview with Stevie correctly...he said they were good friends
||Date: April 28, 2002 at 9:57|
|I've been noticing that Tuff sure does have alot of re-hashes and best of's for only having 2 original cd's. Get off your asses and write some new shit Stevie.
||Date: April 30, 2002 at 17:47|
|I heard that the original (very good) guitarist, Jorge DeSaint, was back in the band! Maybe (like Reno above wishes), they will make a new album for the 'All New Century', that would be the coolest thing to happen for me because they are talented song writers with a typical sound. (no clones at all!).Anyway, this album is a classic among classics of this musical genre, a 'must have' for sure! Hair Bands are generally underrated but nevertheless they're an indeniable part of the history of rock!!
||Date: April 30, 2002 at 20:57|
|Get the bloody hint guys!, there's still a big market for your music, how about making another album for your fans! It's about time!!!!!
||Date: May 31, 2002 at 23:06|
|I like the whole album, but Ain't Worth A Dime is my favorite.
||Date: August 12, 2002 at 7:37|
|Tuff's debut is WORLDS better than PBF's 'Leather Queerz with Exotic Sex Toyz'. If glam is your thing, check this stuff out!
||Date: August 22, 2002 at 9:48|
|I agree 300 0okken6008!
||Date: August 23, 2002 at 3:37|
|Anyone who likes this kind of music cheak out: www.slamrocks.com
||Date: August 24, 2002 at 1:40|
|Thank you very much, TIM.
|From: mikey allen
||Date: August 27, 2002 at 17:09|
|this is better than look what the cat dragged in... why did this not sell 5million copies??? stevie rachelle is the most underatted singer of all time.....
||Date: August 27, 2002 at 22:29|
|Tuff is a good band
||Date: August 28, 2002 at 2:34|
|i remember buying this album after going to the movies with my girl at that time...anyhow, it's an ok album but i believe in 1991 there were a lot of cooler releases..i did like the rap at the end of 'ruck a pit bridge'..and the poppy 'so many seasons'..good cd but not my favorite 7,5/10 email@example.com
||Date: August 30, 2002 at 6:07|
|nitrodoll, I don't know WHAT you were talking about with 'the rap at the end of 'Ruck A Pitt Bridge''? Huh? My friend, you are quite mistaken. That ditty at the end of the 1st track was FUNK, man! Bass/percussion-heavy----FUNK. Besides rock & roll, I love funk because it is one of the few (if not the ONLY) forms of music where the quality of the song is almost entirely reliant upon the bass and rhythm section-players. Rock & roll, on the other hand, revolves around melodies & is guitar-driven.
||Date: September 10, 2002 at 8:55|
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:30|
|Yeah, well I've been up and been down, town to town with several bands, Then tortured for ten long years by critics, agents and the A&R man, and some bandwagon fans. It's time to stand up, fight back, be proud and once again be free, So if you want a piece of me, come and get it! Kurt Cobain is gone but I'm back Wearing leather pants and a backwards hat Guitars slung low Where the down boys go The night trains back so on with the show I'm Metal Health And dressed to thrill I'm an SMF with the lo
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:33|
|oks that kill I rocked and rolled, n' long hair is back And I grew up, singing Strutter, And Back, in Black I'm going back to eighty-nine I went Platinum zero times You're in the jungle sweet child o'mine I want another piece of that cherry pie
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:34|
|I like Old Van Halen and Hanoi Rocks Black n' Blue and Britny Fox Guns n' Roses, Motley Crue When Def Leppard rocked and Skid Row ruled Yeah, Ratt went round n' round Rocking out in Boston, get loud in Chi-town Vandenberg, Priest, Dok-ken, Kix Throwing Faster Pussycat in the mix (P-P-P-P-P-Pussycat) Give me L.A. Guns & The Dangerous Toys Quiet Riot, Bang Tango & Bullet Boys Love Johnny Crash grunge bands are trash I like C.C. DeVille, Mick Mars, and Slash
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:36|
|I'm an American hairband Watch me rock You can raise your hands Or you can suck my c**k Heavy Metal God I'm a Pin-up boy I'm the singer from Tuff not Pretty Boy Floyd Super loud and Super wild Sebastian Bach is youth gone wild Diamond Dave and Nikki Sixx I wanna see Tommy Lee back spinning those sticks Up all night, gonna sleep all day I love girls; girls, girls and I love L.A. I won't waste my breath, but here's a clue Give Pearl Jam & Eddie a big f**k you Who cares about Weezer and the Screemi
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:39|
|ing Trees When we got White Lion And of course the Sleeze Beez If you wanna rock n' roll then read my lips Let's shout it out loud For a band named KISS
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:40|
|Yeah, I saw your grunge band, staring at your shoes on stage, wearing that dirty flannel shirt, when you gonna learn dirtball, you just can't f**k with Twisted Sister. 'What are you going to do with your life'?
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 10:49|
|*Lyrics taken by Tuff -American Hair Band* No other comments here ABSOLUTELY NO ALTERNATIVE :headbanger:
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 16:03|
|I'm glad ARXONTAS provided the lyrics because I sure couldn't decipher them for myself. And the back page of 'The History of Tuff' insert was equally as useless. Thank goodness for guys like Arxontas. I just wish there was a bouncing ball above the text as I read along.
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
|From: Blue Charvel
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 19:55|
|Maybe Dan can add the bouncing ball option to the site. Until then ARXONTAS, maybe lay off the Ouzo while you're online...
||Date: December 19, 2002 at 20:20|
|Lol.Im suprised that you know OUZO!Anyway,you cant caught the bad habits so easy!!!Thanks for the compliment koogle
||Date: December 21, 2002 at 14:57|
|Sarcasm is lost on some people. Ouzo is like the Greek equivalent of Sambuca. And I believe it was mentioned in a Blue Oyster Cult lyric. From the 'Heaven Forbid' CD I think. And yes, I'm counting on ARXONTAS to render the lyrics in full.
||Date: March 8, 2003 at 13:55|
|If you like TUFF you'll love NOIZE TOYS...check it out. BTW: Tuff was one of the best bands to see in a small club.
||Date: May 10, 2003 at 12:34|
|Great cd, Sure they are like Poison, but nothing wrong with that, since I love Poison. Saw Tuff with Shameless in the U.K. last fall, man they rocked, if you haven't heard Shameless, Check 'em out they rock like it's still 1988.
|From: lover of krel
||Date: May 17, 2003 at 3:38|
|Crappy vocals good guitar work needs more melody less on the sqawks and false harmonics. Bad songs. Poison is a much better band that is why they lasting longer than tuff.
||Date: July 14, 2003 at 13:11|
|I wish they had stuck to the live version of 'Good Guys Wear Black.' I really didn't like the studio version at first but now I can't stop playing it. The live version is still better though. I have footage of them before they were signed. Some of the best backing vocals I've ever head on that one. Stevie looks like Brett but the music is different for certain.
||Date: September 18, 2003 at 15:18|
|Yeah! 'The All New Generation' rocks so unbelivably fantastic!!!
|From: Metal T
||Date: September 22, 2003 at 21:30|
|These guys define 'UNORIGINAL'.--definitely not metal !
|From: King James
||Date: September 23, 2003 at 4:41|
|They may not be original, but Tuff makes good heavy metal. That's right, metal!
||Date: September 23, 2003 at 14:08|
|Although 'd never classify Tuff as 'Metal' by any means, they're still fun to listen to.
||Date: November 11, 2003 at 15:40|
|This entire cd rocks my favorites are 'Ruck A Pit Bridge' 'I Hate Kissing You Goodbye' and 'Ain't Worth A Dime' they were a Hair Band that will be around forever and im glad Stevie Rachelle and the boys power to ya
||Date: December 8, 2003 at 22:12|
|I can see why these guys called it quits. I admire the fact that they made a valiant effort to make it, but face it, the singer has no vocal range whatsoever, and the songs suck. The Tuff part about this band is getting through the songs. He needs singing lessons, i'm surprised they made it this far.
||Date: December 9, 2003 at 13:14|
|Another mr.wise guy, that means you Seb....You dont need to have a wide vocal range to sing glam...(PBF-WARRANT-POISON etc) Steve does an excellent job and the whole cd rox at any time!!!!!!
||Date: December 11, 2003 at 0:18|
|Poison, er, I mean TUFF were at the top of their game in 1986 when they were playing sell-outs at the Country Club in Reseda, CA. They were huge then, and put on monster shows. Stevie still had hair! Everyone around them got signed and went to the big time. Warrant, Mr.Big, etc. The fact they didn't get picked up tells you something about what the labels saw in them, which was very little. An unoriginal act that emulated Poison, Van Halen, Alice Cooper, and Cinderella to a tee. Todd was cool.
||Date: March 30, 2004 at 15:03|
|Tuff is the glam essential!
||Date: May 4, 2004 at 19:51|
|I got into tuff pretty late. I thought they were just another glam band. boy was i wrong. yeah they are glam but alot heavier than poison, warrant. And for those who say stevie has no vocal range, what the hell are you listening to. he has to be one of the best singers to come out of the 80's\90's. I thought this album was great, but you need to hear thier other album religious fix now that kicks. tied to the bells is one of my favorite songs of all time.
|From: Jon Vendetta
||Date: May 13, 2004 at 21:37|
|Why do some jerks look for comparisons between POISON and TUFF?? Don't you have ears, buddies? TUFF is TUFF, POISON is POISON! 'It's metal', 'it ain't', 'Stevie looks like Bret', 'the guitar riffs suck' (this one is pathetic... I love CC De Ville, but he AIN'T a guitar player as well, so what's the difference?...). Straightforward: POISON and TUFF kick major ass. End of the story.
||Date: May 14, 2004 at 10:03|
|Tuff, ain't Poison, ther're Wild Boyz! Tom
||Date: June 7, 2004 at 6:31|
|Oh man! 18 years later, and the debate on TUFF is still going. This is great! Absolutely, they were a definite Poison rip off band, especially after Stevie joined. That guy took copying Roth, and Bret Michaels to a new level. To this day he is still a copy-cat. He decided he was gonna be the new Kid Rock. I guess you have to give the guy credit. What else can he do? Where's George and Todd?
|From: Metal T
||Date: June 14, 2004 at 20:09|
|This clown 'Stevie Rachelle' looks like one of the muppets. Very proud of the fact that Ive heard,but never owned this cd, cause its a pile of sh*t ...
|From: Big Papa K
||Date: June 15, 2004 at 16:30|
|As generic as hair metal gets. There is a reason this band was around for so long before finally getting signed to a major label. I hate songs like 'The All New Generation' that name drop bands throughout, especially when the bands included are the likes of Johnny Crash. 2/10
|From: Bleu Charvet
||Date: August 5, 2004 at 5:36|
|Did anyone else go over to the METAL-SLUDGE website? It's a take off on Metal Edge magazine, but RIPS APART hair bands from the 80's/90's. I've read in a few places now that Stevie Rachelle from Tuff is the sole owner and master mind 'man behind the curtain.' Absolutely hilarious! Stevie goes on a crazy 'Courtney Love' type rant in a 'Letter from the CEO' and proclaims he can suck his own c-ck, let's women urinate in his mouth, and has paid for hookers. CRAZY STUFF! Check it: www.metalsludge.tv
||Date: August 30, 2004 at 2:42|
|One of the best glam hard rock CDs ever released! I love it, every single track!'Ruck a Pitt Bridge' is an awesome opener,'The All New Generation' is a cool commercial rocker,'I Hate Kissing You Good-Bye' is a nice ballad,'Lonely Lucy','Ain't worth a dime' and 'Spit like this' are bliss and 3 faves- very ballsy,'So Many Seasons' and 'Forever yours' are beautiful faves too- commercial heaven,'Wake Me Up' is a killer ballad,'Good Guys Wear Black' is a monster track and one of the best. 9.8/10
|From: Border Rat
||Date: September 21, 2004 at 18:07|
|I recently watched the video of I hate kissing you goodbye and although the ballad is cool the band also did quite a few other super songs.So many seasons,wake me up and good guys wear black are very strong tracks.This is a disc with 10 listenable songs and although many compare this band to POISON that is not a bad thing in my opinion.A worthy addition to the cd collection if you don't already own it.
||Date: October 17, 2004 at 21:28|
|The lead singer I thought was better looking then Bret Michaels. Great hair and eyes. If I was a chick I'd do him.
||Date: April 4, 2005 at 9:38|
|This is one great fucking album!
||Date: November 2, 2005 at 11:02|
|Tuff is an underrated band. It's kinda known on 80's metal / glam scene but never made it to big public and it's a shame. Maybe they just popped up on the wrong time, when the world and MTV was focused on Nirvana and Pearl Jam. It's an awsome album, great rock n'roll. If you don't know it, you have no idea of what you're missing. It's heavy, sleazy and caughty. The All New Generation is a 'one-to-hear' song. Highly recommended.
||Date: April 6, 2006 at 2:58|
|These guys were great!! Saw them play at Gazarri's in 1989. It was awesome, it was a PARTY !! Very energetic, they sounded great, the songs were great & they were having fun on stage!! They had tonz of fun with the fans & the place was jam packed !! Then they kept partying with the fans afterwards...this is what Rock n Roll is all about. Why they never managed to breakout of hollywood & make it big is beyond me...? What Comes Around is a great CD, but search around & find some of there other ear
||Date: April 6, 2006 at 3:00|
|(cont. from above)...find some of their earlier songs, which never made it onto this cd, because they're killer too!! T U F F !!!
||Date: May 30, 2006 at 5:00|
|This cd just screams 'Hair Metal'. It's the perfect release for this genre. I've heard them called clones and wannbes but I still think they rocked. 'I Hate Kissing You Good-Bye' is my favorite song by these guys. To bad Stevie Rachelle's solo cds didn't sound anything like this.
||Date: December 11, 2006 at 8:14|
|How shouldn't Nirvana & Co, swep away all the hair bands if the 'All New Generation' of bands were crap as Tuff ( or worse, Southgang, Sweet FA...). This album is like a poor version of 'Open Up And Say Ahh! (although, it has to be said, it sound a lot better and heavier), it's so derivative from Poison, not only the singer looks exactly like Bret Michaels he also sings like him!. Sorry, I just find this unoriginal, unispired and and absolute rip-off. Tastes are Tastes
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: October 22, 2008 at 2:35|
|These guys were supposedly kings of the Strip back in their heyday, but by the time this album came out in '91, we'd already heard all these songs a million times before. The result is that this disc sounds pretty average to me, and in hindsight, even more so. Still a good hair-metal ride, though, kind of straddling the line between the bubblegum of Warrant and Poison, adn something harder and a little more aggressive.
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: October 24, 2008 at 14:42|
|I left this one in my CD player from the other day, and got to enjoy it again. Phew! Smells like old cheese! Very mediocre stuff, and Stevie and his phony tough-guy Stephen Pearcy rasp doesn't help. What does it say about a CD when the best song is the one written by that ass-clown Bret Michaels?
||Date: January 27, 2009 at 0:43|
|Tuff rules i love The All New Generation, Ruck A Pit Bridge, Lonely Lucy and Ain't Worth A Dime just flat out rocks Wake Me Up is cool Spit Like This and Good Guys Wear Black rocks these guys the original lineup need to get back together and make a new CD they have a more attitude driven Poison vibe which is great.
||Date: August 23, 2009 at 23:52|
|What an Album!!!Perfect glam album very similar music like PoisoN. Stevie Rachel is awesome dude i have ordered many cd:s from him n asked him to put autographs on them n he has autographed every TUFF cd:s Man he is so cool dude, TUFF rocks really hard
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: October 18, 2009 at 19:08|
|Yeah this is a good yet not that great Glam album...why is not "that" great mainly coz they wanted to sound a look like Poison..ok you can have influences a heroes but so shameless???...i mean Stevie is so Bret Michael's look-a-like that makes me laugh!!!..anyway still the album without being a great release has good songs such as the beautiful "I Hate Kissing you Goodbye","Forever Yours"(happy),"Spit Like This"(hard)and "Ain't Worth A Dime"(with that kinda funky ending)are enjoyable to listen.80/100
||Date: November 23, 2009 at 1:00|
|sellin old classic blue authentic t-shirt. bought straight from Stevie in 1994. just go on Ebay and search for tuff t shirt. or email me: firstname.lastname@example.org
|From: hair metal again
||Date: April 19, 2010 at 1:41|
|amazing hair metal debut by TUFF in the early 90 s.they got the looks,they got the riffs,they got the songs,they got the attitude.straight feel good hard rock music till the end,excellent production by howard benson ,nothin bad here i guess."lonely lucy","the all new generation"" hate kissing you good bye" are my favs.glory days,so lucky we lived them
||Date: March 15, 2011 at 20:07|
|Poison clone. That said, there are some great songs here. My personal favourite is Forever Yours but the ballad I Hate Kissing You Good-Bye and The All New Generation are very good indeed. It's not deep or profound, just party-style rock songs and it's good for what it is.
|From: the rocker
||Date: December 10, 2011 at 12:03|
|Had this on tape back when it came out,upgraded to a cd I found in a used record store about 12 years ago for $3! I love this stuff,Wake Me Up,Forever Yours,So Many Seasons,I Hate Kissing You Goodbye,Good Guys etc. Really good cd!
||Date: January 23, 2013 at 15:56|
|Great album, Just arrived to late in history. but for fan of glam... great disk keep rocking Stevie
||Date: May 17, 2018 at 17:41|
|I remember wanting this back in the day only to be told it was only available on CD (I was a cassette man at this time), and being an import, it was not cheap. A few years later, and I had my first CD player and this was one of the first CD's I tracked down. Of course, by the time this came out the songs on it were hardly original as there had been about a million other bands from the genre doing the same thing, but boy was it good. At the end of the day people can throw out "they sound like Poison" or "they are unoriginal", but who gives a damn as long as it sounds good. Of course the band had been around a good few years before this album came out, so the songs had that 100% 80s sound to them, but came out during the death knell of the genre and were probably one of the last bands to have any kind of "success" even if it paled in comparison to the glory days. Years later I can still dig this one out and enjoy the hell out of it.
||Date: March 20, 2019 at 18:53|
|So much great memories with this Classic,,,love TUFF Awesome musics perod,,,,,
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