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Determination - The Demo
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|From: Frank n Beans
||Date: June 2, 2003 at 19:14|
|Great debut from a kickass Milwaukee band. Unfortunately, they fell victim to the grunge movement. Quick review: 1) The Habit - killer song about the dangers drug addiction. 2) Love Talk - catchy tune & chorus about what else, but talkin dirty. 3) Innocence of Time - slower song about the innocence of being young and carefree. They actually made a video for this one. 4) C.I.T.Y. (Crime Inside Today's Youth) - how crime is running rampant among the young these days. Long live PT & Vern's
||Date: June 2, 2003 at 21:41|
|Well I know this has nothing to do with their music (sorry) but I remember the lead singer for these guys was a Howard Stern look-a-like who used to walk around clubs in Milwaukee like he was a god. Turned me off to ever checking them out. That cockiness is what killed this genre of music sadly. But hey Frank n Beans you're right I loved T.A. Verns!! Saw Saigon Kick, Wasp, Ace Frehley there..aahh the memories!!
||Date: August 4, 2004 at 6:25|
|hello i thought the leed singer was a great guy i am sorry he always treated me with respect again i have over 60 shows on video now milwaukee whent to shit i still go there almost every other weekend ta verns turned into a hip hop shit club then a security guy got shot dead and the closed the doors that part of town is not the best place to be at night thanks bob
||Date: August 4, 2004 at 6:30|
|tony you sound like a woman yes i am a white man and single i have learned that if most whit men dont kiss a white woman ass she wont even notice him moreor less i have noticed that a lot of white woman think they are gods gift to men that why i only date black woman at least they respect white men so i dont know what your problem is or was mabe he did not kiss your ass properly?????? ha
||Date: August 4, 2004 at 20:58|
|hey metalhead- i met that dude too and maybe it was because we WEREN'T women, he was a prick. Same with the singer from Problem Child- both were great bands but both had singers that walked around Verns like they owned the place. I recorded at the same studio these guys did and one thing I'll always remember is that they had a huge following. Even in Milwaukee i couldn't get my hands on this disc-I ended up with a whole box of the second one-though.
||Date: August 4, 2004 at 21:02|
|Hey- any of you guys from Verns remember Doc Hammer, Toxic Dollz, Model Citizen, or Problem Child? Would love to find some more stuff from those bands.
||Date: August 5, 2004 at 9:33|
|Hey metalhead & Dean. There were some great bands in Milwaukee at that time. PT and Problem Child were defintely my favorites though. There were also great places to play- The Haven, Starz, Vern's. Darrell, Problem Child singer, is in a metal cover band called Metal-Men these days. I've got both PT and PC discs and I have to say that I prefer PC's music. Anybody want to talk PT or PC, email me: email@example.com. Also, they walked around Vern's like they owned it because they did.
||Date: August 6, 2004 at 11:30|
|Dave- it doesn't matter how good they were if they treat the people who come to see them like shit-I'm guessing it was just an off night. I do remember PC doing a metal version of an En Vogue tune and it was actually pretty cool. I'll shoot ya a line. Thanks.
||Date: August 9, 2004 at 4:34|
|hello i have all bands listed above if you know what the haven was i was always there every weekend taping every show my nick name was video bob mabe that will help you out i still go to milwaukee almost every weekend i just wish that milwaukee had good clubs left i stoped in at the rave boy i must be getting very old at 39 i never hear of such horrible bands these guys sound like they had throat cancer i dont know whom played all i can say is the bands sucked shit
||Date: August 9, 2004 at 4:41|
|i was down in milwaukee this past weekend yes i live near tomahawk most of the people up her are nothing but renecks so i go to milwaukee again what the hell happended to lazer 103 boy do they suck shit i guess i am glad that i litterly have thousands of cds because radio sucks ps i never had any problems with stevei wish i could get his number to call him i guess i have a ton of respect for the bands back then to me every body runid the band scene because they quit goning to s
||Date: November 15, 2004 at 2:08|
|Man did these guys sound f*cking good. This calls itself a demo, but it sounds pretty damn good to me. Powerful musicianship and soaring melodic choruses. Very good band and would loved to have heard a full length CD from them.
|From: Rafo Phoenix
||Date: July 22, 2007 at 23:35|
|Great Melodic Hard Rock, solo 4 cortes pero con un estilo lleno de energia y como nos gusta no hay mas que decir otro trabajo que recomiendo personalmente asi que no se diga mas 9/10.
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: July 9, 2013 at 16:39|
|Ummm...pretty boring demo to be honest...these guys had like some kind of lack of originality,here they sounded like Queensryche "wanna be's" and in their full lenght album(which somehow managed to catch my attention one way or the other)they went into a Motley Crue/Faster Pussycats type o' thing..."Innocence Of Time"(AORish) & "C.I.T.Y." are ok songs but...50/100
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