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Artist: Grimm Jack

Title: Go For Your Guns

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Category: Glam/Rock

Year: 1987

Label: Cyn City Records

Catalog Number: SM005


Robin Des Forges vocals
Jimmie Mack guitar
Rich Daly guitar
Paul Vaccaro bass
Dave Leeds drums, percussion

Original version of Downtown first released on this Recording. The band would re-record this song twice more with vocalist Billy Kohout, who joined the group in 1988.


1.  Top Fist  3:15
2.  Every Dog Has It's Day  3:22
3.  Downtown  3:26
4.  Hang 'Em High  3:15
5.  School of Hard Knocks  3:52
6.  Lipstick Killer  3:14
Total Running Time:  20:24

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From: Nancy Date: April 19, 2001 at 20:14
Good songs and well produced. Robin was a real screamer but put on a good show. Highlights on this one are "Hang 'Em High," "School of Hard Knocks," and the original version of "Downtown." Good stuff, but they did MUCH better later on. Love you guys!

From: Aretha Date: April 20, 2001 at 11:56
Got this tape and still love it but I played it to death. Heard 'School of hard knock" on radio in Huntington WV in 1988 and won this tape from the radio station. Bought Jailhouse Tattoo later on CD and its cool too. I seen the band in June of 90' and they was the best I ever saw.

From: Aaron Malone Date: April 21, 2001 at 11:21
Mixed well and features catchy tunes. "Hang," "School," "Downtown," & "Dog" are the best ones here. Sounds like the band was searching for their own niche but didn't find it until Billy Kohout joined the group on the next recording. Better than average material here; good driving music full of high energy. Des Forges could sing, but Kohout was better suited for this band's musical style. maddogaaron@hotmail.com

From: Erica Mason Date: April 21, 2001 at 21:05
And now I finally get around to posting on this site. Thanks to heavyharmonies for putting Jack on your site. I am the world's biggest Jack fan. This release was a good one, but it's only a hint of what Jack would do over the next few years. "Hang 'Em" and "School" are best tracks here. grimmjackfan@yahoo.com

From: David West Va Date: April 22, 2001 at 22:58
Saw them in '90 with Misty Rox opening. Great show. Aretha, are you the one that jumped on the drummer for Rox? I remember some girl with that name doing that. Grimm ruled, went to see them everytime that were around a 100 mile area.

From: Jennifer Date: April 25, 2001 at 12:04
Good work here if you can stand the singer's constant screaming. Not as good as their later material but it's good background music. Average.

From: Roy Date: April 27, 2001 at 12:07
singer sucks but music is pretty cool and the songs are good to.

From: Paul Tully Date: May 2, 2001 at 11:04
Definitely! The singer on this one sucks for air! The songs are really good but Billy would have made them sound so much better. Just listen to the version of 'Downtown' on the "Partners' Ep---IT'S GREAT! This Robin guy sounds like he's badly constipated. They should have gave him an enema and sent him on his merry way and gotten Billy Kohout to sing in the band earlier.

From: Todd Date: May 7, 2001 at 14:52
I've heard much better singers--Billy Kohout is one. This tape is average, nothing really stands out.

From: Samantha Date: May 20, 2001 at 2:00
It's got some good songs like 'School' and 'Hang' and I've heard much worse, but I've also heard much better. Skip it and get their other stuff because it is TEN times better than this one.

From: Alan Tulagi Date: June 2, 2001 at 10:14
Nice to find some GJ sites online theses days! 'Guns' is pretty good but not the best they could do, but the songs are as good as lots of other bands who were out then. Singer reminds me of the guy from Faster Pussycat. 'School" and "Hang 'Em" are really good songs. There other stuff was much better but this one is still pretty good.

From: Vic Date: June 11, 2001 at 12:12
I got this and I like it. It's really not that bad, but I do think Billy was a better singer for this band.

From: Brian Date: July 4, 2001 at 13:10
Good guitar sound and cool songs. Looks like many people don't care for the singer but in my opinion he was pretty good. I admit I like Kohout better, but Des Forges did a good job here.

From: Molly Date: July 22, 2001 at 10:33
picked this up used about 8 years ago and it has some good songs on it. there other stuff is much better

From: Steve Carter Date: August 5, 2001 at 13:06
This tape was one of the lamest things I have ever heard. I listened to it once all the way through and that was more than enough. The singer was really bad.

From: Diane Gerarra Date: September 26, 2001 at 18:28
I like this tape. I like the singer. I like the songs. It DOES NOT SUCK.

From: Randy Date: October 27, 2001 at 21:34
Pretty good tunes

From: B.B. Greene Date: January 17, 2002 at 16:40
Good songs but the singer sucks

From: candiappel Date: February 22, 2002 at 21:34
had sex w/ bass player when they played my hometown. it was alright. i heard later that he od'd

From: mick bown Date: April 5, 2002 at 18:52
is guitarist jimmie mack the same jimmie mack who was in the earl slick band , and recorded solo albums in the late 70's ?

From: Joe Date: May 22, 2002 at 19:49
Good tunes but the singer sucks

From: Beevuss Date: August 26, 2002 at 15:58
I like this one. Some good tunes on it.

From: Don Date: October 14, 2002 at 7:27
This one is RARE. It ain't as bad as people say. Give it a few listens and you'll see it is as good as Pussycat. I do think Kohout was a better singer than the guy on this album, but it has some good tunes on it still.

From: Cameron Deliano Date: January 1, 2003 at 20:05
I agree with most everyone else here that Billy Kohout was a better singer for this band's style. This one does have some good songs on it though.

From: Legs Akimbo Date: May 30, 2003 at 19:20
Are you people high? Robin Des Forges was the high pitched epitome of what every glam frontman was trying to do back then...he carried derivitive, uninspired Johnny Thunders-ripoff rock into a place that was uniquely badass. Billy, on the other hand, sounded like Lita Ford with lung cancer.

From: Larry Turley Date: June 3, 2003 at 14:35
I agree with the previous post about Des Forges being a good singer, but I think Kohout was much better for this band's style of playing.

From: Kim Date: August 23, 2003 at 8:17
school of hard knocks is a great song. reminds me of aerosmith

From: Tyler Cooper Date: December 25, 2003 at 14:58
I heard this one after their later stuff with Billy Kohout singing and was disappointed. The music is good on this one but the singer sounds too much like he's in pain or something--keeps screaming.

From: Mia Date: March 4, 2005 at 19:16
Rich Daly is so hot!!!!

From: frogstomp Date: February 6, 2006 at 6:09
I have read alot of mixed reviews on this Cd but i have never had the pleasure of listening to it. I`m currently looking for it so i can reach my own decision. outlaw@sasktel.net

From: Studboy Date: May 7, 2009 at 19:38
Didn't see in any of these threads if it says this or not, but this has never been officially released on CD, if you find one it is a boot. Got this info straight from the guitar player Jimmie.

From: Stageright Date: January 8, 2010 at 21:15
Looks like it's been awhile since anybody posted here, but for anyone who's interested.....Grimm Jack has reformed and will be releasing new music soon. www.grimmjack.com

From: OxRox Date: June 19, 2010 at 21:44
Waiting for this one to be officially released on CD! It's got some great stuff on it--I love the heavy guitar sound.

From: rick kerch vzla Date: June 21, 2015 at 15:23
This band displays some kind of Faster Pussycat sound in their songs...the production is average,pretty average i'd say...tracks 3,4 & 6 are ok for me...maybe track 1 as well...nothing to kill for in here honestly but still it managed to get a decent rate of 70/100 in my book...

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