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Title: Love Is for Suckers
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Category: Glam Rock
Label: Atlantic Records
Catalog Number: 7 81772-4
Jay Jay French
Joey Seven Franco
|1. ||Wake Up (The Sleeping Giant) ||4:19|
|2. ||Hot Love ||3:28|
|3. ||Love Is for Suckers ||3:25|
|4. ||I'm So Hot for You ||4:05|
|5. ||Tonight ||3:51|
|6. ||Me and the Boys ||3:52|
|7. ||One Bad Habit ||3:18|
|8. ||I Want This Night (To Last Forever) ||4:18|
|9. ||You Are All That I Need ||4:17|
|10. ||Yeah Right ||3:14|
|11. ||Feel Appeal bonus track ||3:19|
|12. ||Statutory Date bonus track ||3:11|
|13. ||If That's What You Want bonus track ||4:25|
|14. ||I Will Win bonus track ||3:29|
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|Total Running Time:|| 52:31|
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Existing comments about this CD
||Date: July 21, 2002 at 20:24|
|Well I know I'll probably ostracize myself here but I love this album! Just a HUGE fun summertime pop-metal album that brings back great memories for me. These guys were a whole new animal by this release though and if you're to compare to 'Under..' then yeah you'll be dissapointed, but on it's own merits it's spectacular. It doesn't help when the band members perpetuate the stigma behind this album by constantly saying it's mediocore. Then the fans tend to follow suit with 'Well it must be'.
||Date: July 21, 2002 at 23:33|
|I love Twisted Sister but this stinks!! Total pop sell-out. Only tracks 1 and 3 sound like true TS songs, and they're pretty good. Everything else is embarrassing fluff that would be more at home on a Danger Danger album. The recent re-release of this album by Spitfire contains 4 extra songs, but they're nothing special either. Not hard to see why this album ended the band's career.
||Date: July 22, 2002 at 9:49|
|The cheesy 'Leader of the Pack' ended Twisted Sister's career, Desslar. This was a decent attempt at resurrection which, by the time it was released, was met with overwhelming indifference. I like 'Wake Up (The Sleeping Giant)'... an anthem that, in a different place and time, would have continued the momentum that 'Stay Hungry' had initialized. Sorry, but I'm with Tony on this one, Desslar.
||Date: July 22, 2002 at 15:18|
|Everyone says 'Leader..' did a lot of damage to the band. I'll take your word for it since I wasn't paying any attention at the time. However, 'Come Out and Play' is a dozen times better than this dreck, uneven but more or less staying true to the band's core sound. On 'Love is..' they just threw everything out the window and tried to be Bon Jovi or something. This album wouldn't scare the PMRC at all. Wouldn't be surprised if Tipper Gore bought a copy to see the results of her handiwork.
||Date: July 24, 2002 at 10:51|
|I like this one enough, sure they sound softer than before. Comparison with Danger Danger and Bon jovi are ok for this album, but I love those two bands. I really like Hot love ( and the tits of the girl in the video) and You are all I need, a great power ballad that can remind The Prize (Stay Hungry). Leader of the pack had a very funny video. Under the blade was too raw for my taste.
|From: M. Allen
||Date: July 24, 2002 at 22:24|
|Call me a blasphemer if you will, but I rate this as TWISTED SISTER's best CD. Some claim producer Beau Hill lopped off the band's balls, but all he did was smooth the band's rough edges and gave them a more melodic vibe. Maybe diehard metalheads didn't like it, but I am a melodic hard rocker at heart, and these hook-filled anthems are exactly what my ears want to hear. It may not be as twisted as the band's early stuff, but that doesn't make me a sucker for liking it.
||Date: July 26, 2002 at 17:50|
|Yes, you are a blasphemer. However, your description of the band having its balls lopped off for this release is most accurate. TS always looked glam, but unfortunately on this album they actually try to sound glam.
||Date: August 16, 2002 at 19:37|
|Yeah Right! Kill me , but this is BEST Twisted Sister record !!! All in one - Dirty lyrics about love , great songs, famous guitars , famous chorus , kip winger ,I got one bad habit baby - hot love , love is for suckers , not for me and the boys but i´m hot for you ! Tonight !Yeah Right!
||Date: August 21, 2002 at 5:21|
|before i had this one i was not a TS fan...When i heard these songs...Yeah, finally they made something good! the real melodic hard rock that i ever loved!! it sounds like Bon Jovi! So what?? It Rocks Your Heart Forever!! not a bad song here....Beau Hill really turn gold what he touches....
||Date: September 13, 2002 at 7:28|
|Although criticized by many as worse than the former TS stuffs, I totally liked this album. I can say 'Love's For SUCKERS never SUCKS!'. It's more melodic, softer and balanced. Remember that in that year there were albums like 'Hysteria' or 'Slippery When Wet' around. So the sound here just fits the time of release. At least much'n'much better than the later Dee Snider's Widowmaker. You can have a good idea on TS by listening this album.
||Date: September 14, 2002 at 4:16|
|Yes Baris, I agree. On this album are the best songs TS ever made, for example the cool titletrack, 'Tonight' or the poppy but strong 'Hot Love'. Very good !!!
||Date: November 8, 2002 at 1:21|
|Not at all what you'd expect from the band, but I loved it! They tried to go along with where the hard rock scene was going at the time. They lost a lot of fans along the way, but they put out a really good album.
||Date: November 23, 2002 at 21:33|
|This is actually a good album. It was under rated. A different type of T.S. than Under The Blade or You Cant Stop R&R, but not necessarily a bad one! It's ashame this came out when T.S. was dying out ( Because of Leader of the Pack! It killed them, but the Come Out And Play Album really wasn't that bad other than that and maybe 1 or 2 others.)I think that this album could have been a bigger hit for them, but the timing killed it. It is a real good one though, check it out!
||Date: November 23, 2002 at 21:39|
|I agree with my buddy Art 100%. Ashame the bad timing killed this one, because some of their best songs are on it. Not as heavy, but great melody and a nice 'pop metal' sound. T.S. is a great group, both their heavier stuff and their more 'pop' type stuff. #2,3,5,6,& 9 are actually some of T.S.' best songs. Check it out!
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
|From: Blue Charvel
||Date: November 25, 2002 at 16:44|
|Gee, you and ART seem to have a lot in common...like for instance your IP....
||Date: December 29, 2002 at 17:35|
|Yes Blue, we do have alot in common. A. He's my best pal B. He doesn't have his own computer yet ( which is the reason for the same IP, as if it's any of your business anyway!) and C. We both know GOOD music!
|From: Trick Taylor
||Date: January 17, 2003 at 19:36|
|Does anyone remember a band called Reckless out of the NYC area? Had a minor hit back in 87/88 with 'Crazy For You'. I think they got some help from the Twisted Sister dudes. That would be a great CD to include, especially if you could get a sample.
||Date: January 18, 2003 at 15:31|
|I bought a Reckless Lp today, it is called 'No Frills', good hardrock but not remarkable. The song is called 'crazy over you'.
|From: Dusty Gibbons
||Date: March 15, 2003 at 1:30|
|The new remastered version has bonus tracks recorded at the time that seem to be heavier and better than most of those on the album! If you can get the remaster.
||Date: June 2, 2003 at 19:24|
|Completely Excellent! great sound, great vocals from mr. snider, tight guitar riffs n superb solos from reb beach, excellent guitar arrangement parts from Ronni le Tekro bombastic drums from joe franco definately superb album. hot love, tonite, me and the boys, yeah right is classic!
||Date: June 2, 2003 at 19:30|
|Where did Reb Beach and Ronnie LeTekro come from? Did they play on this CD?
||Date: June 25, 2003 at 6:55|
|Sit down...Put on this CD...Forget that this band ever had their cheesy hits...Listen...If you have the slightest ear for quality Hardrock (even though it's commercial) you'll know this is good stuff! Unfortunately TS will always be remembered for the 'Stay Hungry' era and that, even back then, overshadowed their other releases which in many ways were far superior...It's only nice to hear that TS had more to offer than 2-riff songs & bad production. Not the best album in rock but worth a listen
|From: jarett r.
||Date: November 8, 2003 at 22:32|
|i've heard that reb beach played guitar on this album. i've also heard that kip winger sang backing vocals on it. and that beau hill did keyboards and backing vocals.
||Date: November 10, 2003 at 9:13|
|Got the video for 'hot love' on my harddisk, very cool video i must say..this is a good melodic rock album but if anyone would ask me for a twisted sister recommendation i would recommend their 'stay hungry' album. Dee snider is cooler than ozzy in my book..hehe
|From: Fat Freddy
||Date: December 30, 2003 at 16:48|
|TS's final studio album and it was not a great way for Twisted Sister to go out. The only good thing about this album is 'Wake Up The Sleeping Giant.' Well, that and the video for 'Hot Love,' with the hot chick washing her car in cutoffs and a skimpy top.
|From: Blue Tequila
||Date: December 31, 2003 at 1:02|
|This has always been my favorite TS album. A while back I heard Dee on a talk show saying something about this being the very first album ever discontinued by a record company. Interesting if true. I burned through 2 cassettes of this in high school and ended up buying the cd from a company in Germany when it was still oop here. I too have to mention the Hot Love video--AWESOME! Why the hell don't rock bands make videos like this anymore??!! Chicks and cars, what more do you need?
||Date: February 5, 2004 at 0:20|
|Wow, I am surprised so many peopel liked this one. If all these people had actually bought it back in 87 then TS may not have broke up shortly after this tour. I did buy it on tape in 87 and I always thought of the first side (first 5 songs) as the good side and the second side (songs 6-10) as the bad songs on the album. Far and away their weakest albums, but it has some good songs.
||Date: April 7, 2004 at 12:19|
|Formidable trabajo de Hard Rock comercial de los ochenta ,muy buenas canciones pegadizas y accesibles ,buen sonido
||Date: April 12, 2004 at 22:27|
|Songs get a bit cheesy here. Look at the titles, and you can see that. One Bad Habit (I like to rock and roll), I Want The Night To Last Forever, I'm So Hot For You. But still a great CD. No promotion, and very basic package compared to COAP
||Date: May 30, 2004 at 13:42|
|The album is well executed for a band who once specialised in all out heavy metal. The only cut in touch with their past is opener 'Wake Up The Sleeping Giant'. There's the usual rebellious lyrics with obligatory group choruses with the right amount of heavy riffing. Not on par with the past Twisted releases but good nonetheless.
|From: Big Papa K
||Date: June 15, 2004 at 16:36|
|Twisted Sister switch gears and try to hard to be another Bon Jovi. While some of the songs are good, such as the first three, this is just not the type of album that Twisted Sister should have been making. The final nail in their coffin. 5/10
||Date: July 6, 2004 at 5:20|
|first time i bought this album, i was very surprise after i hear hot love. TS plays Bon Jovi music? but i still like this album, because i'm a big fans of Bon Jovi.
||Date: July 20, 2004 at 1:51|
|This is crazy,Twisted sister is twisted sister and bon jovi is bon jovi!there can never be another band like bon jovi but there will be band who want to be like them or try to play their type of music. you know who i'm talking about. This album is so cheesy,unlike the under the blade(my favourite twisted sister album) and stay hungry. Come on,bon jovi is a hard rock band who plays some pop metal tune and produce tons of ballad while twisted sister is a heavy melodic metal band playing
||Date: July 20, 2004 at 1:55|
|a mixture of metallic-glam and heavy anthem tune. Ballad is not their specialty. Maybe a band like defleppard or white lion can play bon jovi's music or in some sense more suited,but definitely not twisted sister!
||Date: July 21, 2004 at 7:58|
|I have to admit I liked this album. Everyone is all 'leader of the pack killed the band', but does anyone remember or own a copy of RUFF CUTS which by the way is dissapointingly not on this site although it was (if you don't count the 45's on their own label)the bands first release for Secret records. Leader of the pack is on there it is an older version with a Flinstones sounding car crash effect at the end. So to say that this one cover song destroyed the band...please. If that was the case th
||Date: July 21, 2004 at 8:02|
|whoops!! The band would have been finished before they even started. Also Dee wrote that material not as a T.S. album. It was supposed to be his first solo album but then the band reunited.
||Date: August 3, 2004 at 12:13|
|first they said they talked bout hot love. after that they said love is for sucker. and next, they talk about more love in i'm so hot for you, you're all that i need. what exactly they want?
||Date: August 15, 2004 at 18:32|
|I quite like this album. Still not the same band than on their first three albums, but nice anyway. My vinyl is missprinted. B-sede has Laura Branigan label on it. 8/10
||Date: August 15, 2004 at 20:46|
|Well, all my other Twisted Sister CDs are now in someone else's collection, having sold them all recently, and now only this one remains. The reason? Because I actually quite enjoy this one if I'm to be honest. The title track is great, 'You are all that I need' is a walking cliche but I like it, there are cool guitar riffs elsewhere. Not brilliant and still pretty damn cheesy, but a cool hard rock CD. 6.7/10
|From: Carmine Rose
||Date: October 25, 2004 at 14:29|
|This is my favorite Twisted Sister album (ducks while Twisted Sister fans throw bottles at me). The title track is originally from Poison Dollys 'Invasion' album. Poison Dollys included guitarist Gina Stile who played on Vixen's 'Tangerine' album, but don't worry, Poison Dollys is MUCH better than that crappo Vixen album she played on.
||Date: January 14, 2005 at 9:33|
|This album is not that bad! Try to listen to it again and enjoy it this time. I know, no TWISTED SISTER style here, but they still kicked ass!! With or without the make-up, they are one of my most favorite bands!
||Date: April 2, 2005 at 19:21|
|one of my greatest favs of all, I grew up going to see T.Sister live in concert when they did covers, I love Under the Blade and You Can't Stop albums, but when they hit it big and came out with Hungry and Play, I was not crazy over those two, then Love for Suckers came out just as they were fading, should of been huge. This is TSister writing great songs and succeeding. Tonight, Love is for Suckers, Hot for you, Hot Love, Your'e all I need. Great rocking catchy album, don't miss this one!!!
||Date: April 4, 2005 at 1:19|
|it was the summer of 87 oh yeah... anyhowz, this ain't a bad album at all.. some real catchy tunes on this one..
||Date: October 18, 2005 at 16:32|
|Haven't had this disc in AGES, but recently just got it again. Not the typical sound you expect from the Twisted ones but once you hear it, it sticks!!! Great tunes overall with good guitar work. Fun album you just crank while your doing whatever...Twisted foreva muthas!!
||Date: December 9, 2005 at 15:09|
|This was originally ment to be a Dee Snider solo effort, as all songs were written, arranged and composed by the man solely. It is also their more technical release. All that in mind, I can forgive the album for beeing a rather poor experience, holding it up to the rest of their catalogue. Twisted Sister is traditional Heavy Metal, this is not. 7/10
|From: Metal T
||Date: September 12, 2006 at 18:38|
|Despite the beatdown many seem to give this album,i always thought it was a pretty d*mn good record.Sure its not as mean and nasty as the earlier ones,but who gives a flying f**k! Almost 20 years old now and still sounds good.Hair metal ??? C'mon....Dee ain't no pussy .
||Date: December 2, 2006 at 23:08|
|Just picked this one up used at a local CD store and glad I did. I have Stay Hungry, Come Out & Play, and Big Hits/Nasty Cuts and this one is their most fun rockin' glam album. Catchy rockin' glam rock with a few that are more metal like Twisted can do - title track and Tonight. Definitely recommended for you SMF's.
||Date: December 2, 2006 at 23:10|
|Also want to add that the ballad (You are all that I need) is great and I believe the album states guitar wiz Ronnie Le Tekro from TNT helped write it and you can tell his influence.
||Date: January 9, 2009 at 10:00|
|From: underworld king
||Date: January 27, 2009 at 6:08|
|I too enjoy this album quite a bit. The summer of 87 and I had just graduated high school. Good times!
||Date: August 17, 2010 at 9:51|
|i'm sorry if i offend anyone but i think this is much better then come out and play and very underated the only songs i don't care for are the ridiculous yeah right(twisted's worst ever song) and tonight but my personale favourites are wake up the sleeping giant,hot love,i'm so hot for you,me and the boys and one bad habbit i wish they'd make another album i love twisted
||Date: October 7, 2010 at 4:45|
|Strange things happen...I bought this one the very first time I saw it in 1987 or maybe 88 as in Spain things go slowly. I just hated it, sold out to a comercial way, I just had had it with TS. Funny as it is nowadays I like it...not as TS album but as a kind of fresh cheesy summer rock ¿pop? thing. Don't get me wrong,if you are a TS hardcore fan get the hands off this one but if you need a cd to make you smile while driving down the highway on a hot summer day...well, then this one fits the needs.
||Date: October 7, 2010 at 20:53|
|By the time I got into TS they had already split up, but I would still say they are one of my favourite bands ever. My first exposure to them (at least from an album perspective as I had the song Under the blade on a compilation tape) was You cant stop rock n roll, which is obviously one of their classics, but I soon bought pretty much all of their original albums with the exception of Under the blade which took a lil longer to track down. Like many, this one came as somewhat of a disapointment to me, but like Jovis 7800 and Crues Theatre of pain, its grown on me over the years to the point that, while its nowhere near my favourite, I do find it to be a great album. I can understand why some fans will never accept it, but to say its their sell out pop album is totally wrong, as this is probably closer to how the band started out than any of their other albums. Compare this to the Club daze material, and its not so poppy.
||Date: April 25, 2011 at 22:34|
|This is my favorite Twisted Sister album, even if it's not actually Twisted Sister. No, this was actually recorded as a Dee Snider solo album, but the record label flat out REFUSED to issue it without the Twisted Sister name on it. In face, Snider was the only TS member that worked on this album. Kip Winger and Reb Beach (of Winger fame) worked with Dee and producer Beau Hill and a handful of session musicians. If memory serves me correctly, Twisted Sister had already pretty much broken up when this album was recorded, but the record label put the Twisted name on it and put them back on the road, which eventually led to a pretty nasty split. Still my favorite "Twisted Sister" album, though.
|From: the rocker
||Date: April 26, 2011 at 19:01|
|I liked TS before this came out as an above average fan, but then this came along and I was like WOW! I'm a huge fan of "Hair Bands" I really don't like calling it that, but that's how people associate it nowadays. This is as comercial as it gets and I love it!!!
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: June 30, 2011 at 22:22|
|Respecting all the comments above(good and bad) i think this album is simply great!!!...ok is a very commercial one but it was released in a time where, for example, bands such as Bon Jovi,Dokken or even The Scorpions were hitting the charts like a napalm bomb and probably TS wanted to taste the same somehow...a bunch of very catchy songs is what we find here...my faves are "Wake Up(The Sleeping Giant)","Hot Love"(AORish),"Love Is For Suckers","Me & The Boys","I Want This Night(To Last Forever)"(nice chorus),"Yeah Right" & "I Will Win"(bonus track)...recommended album if you like poppy/happy metal...92/100
|From: hair metal again
||Date: July 7, 2011 at 1:10|
|this is TS s best release!beau hill really gives the band the sound they should always have.straight hard rock ,with huge drums and big melodic choruses.songwriting is in high level and you get "hot love","you are all that i need","i m so hot for you" and "love is for suckers".fantastic release
||Date: September 18, 2019 at 20:19|
|Yeah I know its a bit late replying to a comment from 17 years ago, but just read this "The cheesy 'Leader of the Pack' ended Twisted Sister's career" ... what absolute bullshit. Sounds like someone does not know their Twisted history since Leader of the pack was actually a song that goes way back to the very early days of Twisted Sister, and actually originally appeared on the Ruff Cutts EP that predates the debut album (and actually appeared on several CD versions of Under the blade). Simple fact is, by the time Come out and play came out, Twisted Sister were already starting to fragment as a band. AJ was out of the door soon after its release, and Snider was looking at doing a solo project. Also, the fact that MTV refused to play the first singles video (Be chrool) due to the "violent nature" of it did not help.
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