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CD Title: Refugee
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Category: Hard Rock
Year: 1992
Label: Interscope
Catalog Number: 7 92185-2
Personnel
Thomas McRocklin guitars
Danny Cooksey vocals
Zach Young bass
Brooks Wackerman drums
Steve Vai producer
Tracks
| 1. | Nineteen | 3:56 |
| 2. | Curious Intentions | 3:49 |
| 3. | Bangin' Time Again | 4:27 |
| 4. | Mother of Love | 3:54 |
| 5. | Devil in the Angel | 4:10 |
| 6. | Rockin' My Body | 4:00 |
| 7. | Slow and Beautiful | 5:22 |
| 8. | Tyre Kickin' | 5:22 |
| 9. | Terminate | 4:23 |
| 10. | Nothin' Great About a Heartache | 4:29 |
| 11. | We're Gonna Fight | 4:10 |
| 12. | I Want Everything | 4:18 |
| 13. | Felony | 3:18 |
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| Total Running Time: | 55:38 |
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Existing comments about this CD
| From: Patrick Chabot |
Date: April 18, 2001 at 14:49 |
| These guys rock.Their mentor and producer is Steve Vai. Thomas McRocklin is a junior axe wizard and his equally youthful cohorts. The band members where all under the age of 20 while they released their album Refugee and rocked the world but sadly split up after their first album. All band members had talent and the vocals where crunchy and kickin' as well as the music on the Cd. The song Nineteen will get you up in high gear.
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| From: scofenix |
Date: May 18, 2001 at 22:09 |
| over the top bad ass stuff! ya gotta love it. very hard guitar. and if you love tight crunchy vocals aww heck just buy it you'll see what i mean
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| From: Brian |
Date: June 18, 2001 at 18:06 |
| Lead singer was the red head kid from Different Strokes...and the best friend of John Connor in Terminator 2. Believe it or not...it's true!!!!
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| From: Eva |
Date: July 6, 2001 at 6:14 |
| B4G was a rocker girls dream way back when. When I was 13 (9 years ago) I was convinced that I would be Mrs. Thomas McRocklin! They were all incredibly talented but let's face it: It was The Thomas McRocklin Band. Steve Vai brought those kids in so TMR would have people to support his breathtaking guitar playing ability. He's brilliant and when he left, what do you know?! The band went down the tube. Lucy's Milk was a sad way for those guys to rebel against Steve Vai and everything he created.
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| From: T-BONE |
Date: August 17, 2001 at 19:48 |
| Great vocals on the part of Sam...oops, I mean Danny Cooksey. The guitars however are good, but too damn over-produced. Too many guitar tracks going on and too many effects. This was a Steve Vai album, not a B4G effort. Steve is a great guitarist, but too much of a show off. Satch and Eddie still blow him away because they still play from the heart, not to impress themselves. Thomas McRocklin is a great guitarist for his age, but it's all still Steve Vai Puppetry. Still a good cd to give a shot.
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| From: Rockhead |
Date: October 12, 2001 at 10:12 |
| I agree with you 100% I think Steve should have backed off a little and let these guys do their own work. It does sound like a Steve Vai album. Don't get me wrong, i'm a big Vai fan, but there are too many effects on this album. I wonder how four 15 year olds would sound in concert? Probably nothing like the cd. All the songs kick ass. Especially 2,4,9,10,11,12,and 13. It is funny to think of the lead singer as the little red head from Diff'rent Strokes.
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| From: Billy Boy |
Date: January 8, 2002 at 9:09 |
| This kids rule!!! Listen 'Nineteen'!!!
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| From: aDJinHawaii |
Date: January 15, 2002 at 17:31 |
| These kids just plain ROCKED. Saw them live at their album release party in San Diego in 1992 and they were chaparoned by their PARENTS! Kick ass pre-grunge-takeover ROCK. 'Specially sice they were all under 18 at the time.
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| From: David |
Date: May 8, 2002 at 1:45 |
| What a band, exellent vocalist and of course super production, what are these doing these days
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| From: Reno |
Date: May 8, 2002 at 6:11 |
| Pretty good cd for a bunch of kids. The lead vocalist was Sam in Different Strokes and he was also in a Nickelodeon show called Salute your Shorts. If you watch Terminator 2, he's on the back of Edward Furlongs minibike in the beginning of the movie. He turned out to be a very good singer aside from his acting ability. I wish I could have been half as good as McRocklin at that age. I think he was 14-15 when this cd was made. He's also in the Vai video called The Audience is Listening.
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| From: tomcat |
Date: May 11, 2002 at 12:14 |
| i like this cd...
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| From: Gar |
Date: August 14, 2002 at 3:25 |
| Liked this one a lot more than I thought I would. They were just kids, but they knew how to rock. Saw Danny Cooksey on VH1's 'Where are They Now' and it made no mention of Bad4Good. Just talked about his acting.
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| From: MALLORCA´S ROCK |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 8:38 |
| ES INTERESANTE. SE NOTA LA MANO DE STEVE VAI. EL FUTURO DEL ROCK ESTÁ EN LAS MANOS DE CHAVALES COMO ESTOS Y HAY QUE AYUDARLES. SUPER GUITARRA Y SUPER CANTANTE.
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| From: Greg |
Date: October 6, 2002 at 17:14 |
| Anyone know where I can downlaod the video for ' Nineteen', these guys rock!!
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| From: THE ROCKER |
Date: November 6, 2002 at 14:49 |
| one of the best debut albums of all time! Bad 4 good kick ass.They do a killer job doing Thin Lizzy's 'Nineteen',not to mention all of the other great songs on Refugee.Do yourself a favor and give this disc a few spins-You won't reget it.
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| From: koogles |
Date: December 1, 2002 at 10:46 |
| Danny Cooksey's vocals can be a bit too grating at times, but there's some good harmonies even if the songs don't quite deliver. Bad 4 Good? More Bad than Good I'm afraid.
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| From: M. Allen |
Date: December 25, 2002 at 18:43 |
| Thank you, Koogles...I was starting to think I was the only person around who thought this CD was bad, not good. Sure, for a bunch of youngsters, they displayed some talent, but the overall sound of this album lacked any real punch and pizazz. A few decent songs ruined by a whole bunch of fillers designed to make you frantically reach for the Skip/Next button on your CD player. Bottom line, it's not exactly trash, but it's not exactly treasure either.
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| From: Emilio |
Date: March 26, 2003 at 14:25 |
| El apadrinamiento de Vai les sirvió a estos chicos para hacer este muy correcto disco, pero ¿qué ha sido de ellos?
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| From: celerycake |
Date: April 10, 2003 at 1:21 |
| Has anyone ever heard anything about any other bands danny was in I heard something about Lucy's Milk a while back?
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| From: Nighthawk |
Date: April 22, 2003 at 14:04 |
| These guys absolutely rock. I bought the cd when it came out in 92' and I still haven't heard anything as good since. It's a crime the band disbanded. Timeless cd......
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| From: Logan-Five |
Date: May 6, 2003 at 0:57 |
| I do know that Brooks Wackerman played on one of Mike Muir's Infectious Groove cds. He also played drums on Glenn Tipton of Judas Priest, his solo album 'Baptism of Fire'. I heard of Lucy's Milk, but never heard anything from it. Zack Young, never heard of him after B4G. Danny Cooksey also fell off the planet.
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| From: Gar |
Date: May 6, 2003 at 18:29 |
| Lucy's Milk was the name Bad4Good took after McRocklin left and was replaced by another guitarist. Apparently they took on a different musical style, possibly the dreaded Grunge. In addition to Infectious Grooves, Brooks Wackerman played with Suicidal Tendencies and is currently with Bad Religion. His older brother Chad had played with Steve Vai in Frank Zappa's band.
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| From: MButt |
Date: June 16, 2003 at 5:50 |
| just picked this up, and glad I did, man this thing rocks!! I wasn't sure if this band was really kids or if that was some kind of joke, either way, damn, what took me so long to get it. Nineteen is a killer song!!
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| From: Scandinavia |
Date: September 28, 2003 at 12:37 |
| The 'nude' pics in the cover would go as child pornography...Hmmm...But actually a pretty good disc except the wannabe boyband songs like 'Mother Of Love' etc. Some fillers but overall a very decent album...'Curious Intentions' is my fave...I wonder if Steve had curious intentions with these guys...Hmmm
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| From: Dean |
Date: January 18, 2004 at 17:55 |
| Above average cd but the some of the lyrics will make ya cringe. Steve Vai should have stuck to the music. Saw Danny Cooksey on a rerun of some kids game show and it was filmed right as they were making this. He seemed pretty cool amd much more mature than the lyrics he was singing.
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| From: Ricky |
Date: February 9, 2004 at 0:29 |
| This cd is killer and always will be I grew up with Danny we used to hang out when he would go visit his dad in Oklahoma , and up until the cd was released we always talked but now I don't know what happened to him I know now he is a voice on few cartoons like tiny toons and little mermaid (on toon disney) and he is married and has 2 kids, His dad had mentioned to me about B4G doing a reunion cd and tour. Which would be very cool...So if you haven't heard Refugee yet you should ...I would even c
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| From: chris |
Date: February 9, 2004 at 10:39 |
| i bumped into thomas recently he is livin near me in england
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| From: z9000 |
Date: February 19, 2004 at 7:10 |
| zack is currently playing in a band called artificial intelligence...........check them out at aimusic.com.
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| From: Nighthawk |
Date: March 22, 2004 at 12:59 |
| Last i heard Thomas had a cd on guitar nine records, zach is playing with some band out in seattle and brooks is on/off with Bad Religion. As for danny he's in england somewhere...Thomas still kicks ass
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| From: Metal T |
Date: May 26, 2004 at 10:19 |
| Congrats to Sam ( Mr.Drummond your not my real dad ) Cooksey.Now all you need is Willis' on the drums.Steve Vai What in the h*ll were you thinking with this load of crap ? --Avoid .
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| From: Mar |
Date: June 12, 2004 at 15:58 |
I love this album. Used 2-have it & dunno what i did w/it. But man, i'm having an impossible time finding the lyrics to 'Nothin' Great About a Heartache'! Anyone out here has'em? Pleeeeeeeeze? < Can ya email'em to me at itsmedammmit@yahoo.com? (that's with 3 m's lol) I would be eternally grateful. Can't find the darn album anywhere and i KNOW it's somewhere in my things...
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| From: MJ (Marla) |
Date: June 12, 2004 at 18:11 |
Hey Mar.....you've got mail...
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| From: Metal T |
Date: June 25, 2004 at 23:16 |
| 'Now,the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, what might be right for you, may not be right for some. A man is born he's a man of means, then along come two, they got nothing but their jeans-- But they got diff'rent strokes,it takes diff'rent ' ..... ????? Way to go Sam !
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| From: yipes |
Date: June 28, 2004 at 23:12 |
| Hey can anyone tell me where I can find info on this band? I can't find anything related to the band breaking up? I hope that the truth isn't really the truth. I mean how do you know?
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| From: |
Date: July 6, 2004 at 11:01 |
| el cantante es el chaval que iba con el protagonista de terminator2....eeeiiii
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| From: Memole |
Date: August 6, 2004 at 8:08 |
| Nice street rock...but I've heard that the guys didn't play a single tune...is that the truth???
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| From: WTF? |
Date: August 26, 2004 at 22:07 |
| Is this board for real? Why in the WORLD would you guys be talking about this 1 CD child band 20 years or whatever later? Please, people.... Get a grip.
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| From: Geoff |
Date: August 26, 2004 at 22:43 |
| I have to wonder how you came across it Mr WTF? Were you searching the world wide web for it, or how else would you come across it and be troubled by the discussion? As for the CD, I guess I kind of like this one. Cannot look at the band for the sake of stomach and stability as a man, but 'Curious intentions' and 'Nothin great about a heartache' are killer songs.
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| From: SPOTLIGHT |
Date: August 27, 2004 at 22:28 |
| Bad, Not Good! And...by the way...Danny was the downfall of Different Strokes...kind of like Cousin Oliver was to The Brady Bunch. He sucked on tv and he sucked on this album.
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| From: |
Date: October 18, 2004 at 19:38 |
| Anyone who doesn't like B4G'S Refugee needs to be taught some lessons about what rock n' roll is and they need to get their head's out of their asses! For you punks that don't like the album,what the fuck do you have in your ears?? 'Refugee' clearly defines what a good rock n' roll debut should have. Rough, dirty vocals & lyrics combined with some smokin' guitar work and the funny thing about it is?...they were kids making real rock n' roll. Bad 4 Good r the real deal.
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| From: BugsBunny |
Date: November 7, 2004 at 21:08 |
| From Portugal, great album! One of the best i've listened, in line with Junkyard and Enuff z'Nuff. Just great!
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| From: onemorecast |
Date: November 9, 2004 at 23:39 |
| the kid from different strokes and that kid that played Vai in his video. This was a really cool album.
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| From: z4roxx |
Date: December 14, 2004 at 18:49 |
| MINCHIA CAPOLAVORO!!!AVRAN SI O NO 15 ANNI ED HAN FATTO UN CD SIMILE???IO ALLA LORO ETA'MANCO POTEVO ANCORA USCIRE DI CASA AH AH AH AH AH AH!!!!
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| From: metalalways |
Date: February 14, 2005 at 11:18 |
| this cd rocks danny cooksey is a excellent vocalist thomas mcrocklin's guitar playing is awesome i love the song bangin time again great actor and metal singer. bad4good rules!!!!!!
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| From: gazrockdude |
Date: June 14, 2005 at 13:00 |
| In answer to anyone who wants to know the whereabouts of Thomas Mcrocklin(Mclaughlin) he currently works in a guitar shop in Newcastle,England If Anyone wants to contact him just send me an email...
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| From: Teer |
Date: June 15, 2005 at 10:34 |
| Personally i think Vai 'killed' this very very very talented band. Its too much Vai in it. And also way too heave stuff for 15 year old guys. But damn they can play. The drummer is phenomenal. And the song Nothing great bout a heartche is awesome. Thats the type of musical direction they should have played throughout this cd IMO. Anyways. Great bunch of talented guys but just mismanaged.
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| From: 777 |
Date: July 15, 2005 at 11:17 |
| Hey gazrockdude can't contact you over the board ... my email is beaztdog@gmx.net ... I'd like to get in contact with Thomas ... please reply ... thx
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| From: headbanger4life |
Date: January 4, 2006 at 3:21 |
| I liked this one when it came out and I still enjoy. Never knew about the lead singer being in Different Strokes and Terminator 2 (that's funny). It's a Steve Vai project and has his touch all over the album. This one gets a bad rep sometimes because of this, but it's still a good rocker.
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| From: manicmurderdoll |
Date: April 25, 2006 at 18:15 |
| Didja know Danny Cooksey was also in the Nickelodeon show, Salute your Shorts? LOL. That aside, this album friggin' rocks and anyone who says otherwise needs to get a hearing aid. 'Curious Intentions' remains my all time favorite song.'Nineteen' makes you want to break stuff while headbanging.'Terminate' makes me want to get a Harley and a tommy gun. 'Felony' pretty much speaks how I feel about censorship. Great album. Frelling great.
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| From: AORlover |
Date: July 3, 2006 at 5:48 |
| 'Nothing Great About A Heartache'' is a GREAT BALLAD!!
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| From: Metalmusicman |
Date: December 31, 2006 at 17:27 |
| Very, very impressive for a group composed of teenagers 12 to 17. 12 year old McRocklin is just unreal on the fretboard. His potential as a guitar God is abundant already. Cooksey does a fine job handeling the vocals and the songwriting is top notch. 'Nineteen' and 'Terminate' are great rockers, while 'Mother Of Love' and 'Nothing Great About A Heartache' are stunning ballads. The album is executed very well and if you didn't know it, you would never know it was kids you were hearing. Get it!!!
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| From: metalmastermusic |
Date: June 11, 2007 at 14:06 |
| How can so many people rip on this band ?? I don't know to many 17-21 year olds who can jam like this do you ? Even with the Steve Via influence they are still young.... There are some great shredding guitars on this album and though the lyrics are a bit cheesy Cooksey still belts out some great vocals...to bad these guys could not get together and put out some more mature albums. Great rock-n-roll fun form this album. Definetly worth buying if you are into shreddin guitar work !!! 8.5/10
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| From: juan carlos |
Date: July 25, 2007 at 0:14 |
| Cierto, 'Nothin' Great About a Heartache' es una balada muy notable De lejos la mejor, la lenta 'Slow and Beautiful' 'Devil in the Angel' y 'Curious Intentions' tambien tienen su gusto. HardRock regularon con la voz bien desgarradora pero no de buen gusto, coros bien buenos, temas previsibles. Cierto que es Divertido pero esperaba mas.. 7.8/10
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| From: hernanHRM/AOR |
Date: October 11, 2007 at 22:47 |
| Agresivo Melodic Hard Rock Empesando con una joyita 'Nineteen' demostrando todo su poder y fuerza de una voz letal y extraurdinaria, que decir de los buenos toque y sonido de guitarras, son sencillamente fabulosos de esta muy buena banda joven.. Saludos a cecilia que le encantan esta banda...
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| From: shark attack |
Date: January 30, 2008 at 12:04 |
| What were Steve Vai and the dimwits at Interscope thinking with this release? what with some of the most dumb sexual drivel masquerading as lyrics and the semi naked shot of the boys!!! all who look like there still at school, this is the musical equivalent of kiddie porn!!! As for the music, well considering its got Vai`s grubby hands all over it (producing,writing etc)its a major disappointment, being clumsy sub par hair metal with more filler than killer. 52/100
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| From: metalalways |
Date: February 19, 2008 at 1:04 |
| Don't know if anybody knows this or not but not only was the lead singer Danny Cooksey in the band and on the movie Terminator 2 Judgement Day the song Terminate was the original inspiration for the movie Terminator 2 Judgement Day if you listen to or read the lyrics you can tell that they're singing about the terminator Arnold Schwartzenegger like he rides a bike a fatboy harley davidson and he'll look you in the eye and tell ya that he'll be back next time whoever owns this cd really listen to
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| From: metalalways |
Date: February 19, 2008 at 1:07 |
| the lyrics in the song terminate what i don't understand is why they used the guns n roses song you could be mine instead of using terminate because that song had nothing to do with the terminator or the movie terminate actually sings about the terminator.
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| From: rockhardrock |
Date: April 21, 2009 at 18:06 |
| when i saw a picture of this band i thought they were some mediocre teenage rock band, but when i heard em i was amazed, they had a talent, like they were in this bussiness for years. my favs: Nineteen, Curious Intentions, Terminate, Nothin' Great About a Heartache and We're Gonna Fight
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| From: rick kerch vzla |
Date: November 16, 2011 at 17:19 |
| A good kicking a** Rock And Roll kids' album ..surely it has its hooks this release...well produced by none other than the guitar geniuos Steve Vai...best shots for me are "Bangin' Time Again","Mother Of Love"(best cut of the album IMO),"Devil In The Angel","Rockin' My Body"(rocks good!) & "Tyre Kickin'"(a kicking a** instrumental)...Danny has(or had) a great mature voice for his age in here and the very skilled Thomas McRocklin showed how good he was on guitar...recommended album...86/100
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| From: Doghouse Reilly |
Date: November 16, 2011 at 17:57 |
| I agree with a previous poster: "Sam" was the beginning of the end of Diff'rent Strokes. After that Willis turned into a thug, Kimberly became a crazy bitch, and Arnold spent the rest of his life as a bitter litle short guy trying to get past that character. As for Bad 4 Good, it's an okay CD, basically a hair-metal boy-band with Steve Vai as their Lou Pearlman. Came out about three or four years too late, though. You KNOW it had to be Vai who picked out the obscure Thin Lizzy track for them to cover. COoksey was 16 at the time, but when he appeared on the old Metal Shop radio show, his voice was still cracking horribly (and hilariously--hey, mine changed more or less overnight so I missed all that fun stuff). The drummer went on to Suidcidal Tendenies, I think.
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| From: the rocker |
Date: January 2, 2012 at 23:02 |
| Not a huge fan of this band or cd. My favorite track is the ballad, Nothing great about a heartache. Other tracks are Bangin' time, Mother of love,& Devil in the angel.
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| From: Sly009 |
Date: June 23, 2012 at 1:59 |
| I don't give a crap about the age, Great songs, 'Nothing Great About a Heartache' is a killer song. Steve, Bring them back. Bought this cd 3$. I like to give this cd a spin once in a wild.
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| From: MHR |
Date: November 11, 2012 at 8:04 |
| These guys rock! I like this work.
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| From: vanitybinge |
Date: January 18, 2013 at 22:13 |
| My absolute favorite CD of the genre, in the 90s. Kicks SO much ass! "Felon", "We're Gonna Fight", "Bangin Time Again", "Curious Intentions", "Devil in the Angel", "Terminate", amazing.
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