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Artist: Pretty Boy Floyd

Title: Bullets and Lipstik

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Category: Glam

Year: 1989

Label: Bellaphon (Germany)

Catalog Number: 290-07-130

Personnel

Tommy Floyd vocals
Pete Parker guitar
Sandy Hazard drums
Steve Bratz bass
This CD reached No. 4 on the British Indie charts and got a rave review in Kerrang magazine. The band opened for Skid Row, Hurricane, Savatage, Jailhouse, Cold Sweat and others. In 1990 PBF got into a major legal battle with the american PBF and ended settling out of court and giving up the name due to legal implications.

Tracks

1.	Welcome to the Show
2.	Four for the Road
3.	Somewhere (over that rainbow)
4.	Proud to be Loud
5.	Raggedy Ann
6.	Moonshine Daze
7.	This Gun's for Hire
8.	Another I.O.U
9.	Down on the Floor
10.	Bullets and Lipstik

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Existing comments about this CD

From: hardrockhaven	Date: August 19, 2001 at 12:24
The Canadian Pretty Boy Floyd is nowhere near as good as the American PBF. The Canadian PBF is as "formula" as they come. I'm not sure how they ever got the rave reviews they did when they first came out. And since their cd is no easy score these days, you're better off to spend your money on the Leather Boyz with Electric Toyz albums. At least they know how to craft a catchy tune.

From: Guitar guy	Date: November 6, 2001 at 17:02
I wish I had a copy.

From: KISSFAN

Date: November 10, 2001 at 1:32

Cool album.Cool band.Down on the floor ROCKS !! I used to love that song!!Tommy Floyd was an amazing songwriter and frontman who always had bad ass bands.I dont know why these guys are called glam.It`s mostly hard rock acdc style IMO.Bikers loved them and always had them playing at functions.Saw them back up Skid Row where members of the Crue, Aerosmith and Bon Jovi ended up doing an allstar jam in honor of Billy Duffys birthday towards the end of the night. PBF got huge respect from what I saw.

From: Krash Baybe	Date: November 20, 2001 at 1:45
Yup.I like these guys a lot.But they got screwed outa they`re name by MCA Records.I think they broke up right after it came out.This album has good songs but not much in the way of production behind it.Kinda sounds like a demo.But I like that about it.

From: ViXeN	Date: November 21, 2001 at 1:05
I`ve got some stuff from this album on mp3.I think it`s from an earlier EP by the same name.The four songs I`ve heard are a little heavy for my taste and I agree with some of the other reviews it`s not Glam it`s Hard Rock.The American Pretty Boy Floyd guys are much cuter and have better songs.

From: Chris	Date: December 15, 2001 at 0:33
Would love to hear these guys, and compare to them the American version of PBF, but what the hell does being "cuter" than another band have to do with the MUSIC. This is why a lot of people don't accept a chick's opinion, because more often than not, it's tainted with some kind of biasedness towards a band for being "cute" or "sexy."

From: Bret	Date: December 22, 2001 at 2:28
The Canaidan PBF did get screwed out of their name & I do believe they broke up soon after. GOOD Luck trying to find it, Ive been looking for the past 6 years & I cant find it anywhere. & Im in Vancouver, Canada Go figure?

From: Lance	Date: January 16, 2002 at 22:41
Great album but impossible to find anymore.

From: MOTLEY	Date: January 21, 2002 at 5:13
Fellow searches.I found it through a friend through the german e-bay and I have it.Its great but not in-ya-face.Good luck in finding it!!

From: donnyandangel

Date: January 23, 2002 at 0:22

There is no reason to judge a band by their looks, stupid! If they sound good and can play, who cares what they look like? DUH!!! They got screwed by the PBF of America, but had their own sound that was just as good. "Cute", puh-leeze! You probably don't listen to good music because "cock-rock" musicians are pleasing to your eye, while you miss the real message. It isn't about parties and pussy, it's about fun, stupid!

From: donny&angelfire	Date: January 23, 2002 at 0:24
You might want to buy Bulletboys, you moron!

From: criztit@hotmail	Date: February 13, 2002 at 6:14
if any 1 wants this lp, i'll give it 2 ya

From: Guitar guy	Date: March 12, 2002 at 17:46
YEAH !!! Five years of searching and I got it !!! Motley (Posted above...) wuz right, German ebay. www.ebay.de I looked for a few months and three days ago there it was!! Thanks again Motley!!!

From: Sandy Hazard

Date: March 17, 2002 at 4:17

Cool to see all this interest so many years later. The band was a lot of fun...best moment was seeing our picture in Kerrang and the headline saying FLOYD SIGNS TO MCA. Why do you think the US PBF LP stiffed after all that promotion....Karma...they know why. Anyone interested in a sealed LP copy of bullets and lipstick can contact me at funarama@excite.com. Other bands I've played in have been The McRackins, Grandma Moses and The Retreads. www.mcrackins.com

From: Brett	Date: March 26, 2002 at 23:41
Well I FINALLY got my Hands on a copy of this LP. I managed to find a sealed copy of it over @ GEMM.com for $30US Now the only problem is is that I dont really want to open it, But I guess I have to so I can Tape it onto a Cass. I guess ill open & tape it onto a Cass. then Never Touch the LP again. Maybee Ill frame it. hehe.

From: brett	Date: April 5, 2002 at 13:17
1rst I finally scored a copy of the Album on the Original Canadian Label & Now even better I just scored a copy of one of their performances they did back in 87. Awsome band.

From: Motley	Date: April 9, 2002 at 1:33
Glad I could help you guitar guy. My fave is PROUD TO BE LOUD. An excellent song.

From: Motley	Date: April 9, 2002 at 1:35
BTW. Does anybody know what they are doin now?!?!?! I would like to have som einfoes if possible.....

From: KISSFAN

Date: April 9, 2002 at 13:46

The guitarist is still playing.I saw a gig a coupla months ago and wuz blown away.Someone mentioned who he wuz and I couldn't believe it wuz the same guy from PBF.Crazy looking scrawny skinhead covered in ink.He fronts a kick ass three piece that sound like a cross between Rose Tattoo, AC/DC and Stevie Ray Vaughn.The band is called "Billy Butcher". Supposedly they just got a deal and have an album coming out this summer.Best band I've seen in years to tell you the truth. Old school Rock and Roll

From: jizzyjizim	Date: May 17, 2002 at 10:50
I had seen this cassette when it first came out, I never bothered with it, but now I am looking for the CD, I downloaded all the songs from the net in Mp3 format, but like most people I want the original, it isn't that bad, maybe not quite as good as the American PBF, but better than alot of glam bands out there, oh well, maybe I'll get lucky someday!!!

From: jizzyjizim	Date: May 17, 2002 at 10:52
BTW, does anyone htink they sound alot like KIX????

From: lipstick	Date: May 26, 2002 at 8:39
i got these on mp3, what is moonshine daze tho? all i got is 57 seconds, is it just guitar or is supposed to be a song.

From: lipstick	Date: May 26, 2002 at 8:47
Also did these guys do aalbum or Demo called 'Screwed, Blued and Tattood' with a song called 'Damned if we do' on it, i downloaded this and just wondering.

From: The Frost	Date: May 26, 2002 at 12:34
No, they did not. What you downloaded is a band called "Sleaze Beez"and their album "Screwed Blued and Tattooed". Another good Glam band!

From: jizzyjizim	Date: May 28, 2002 at 14:25
I finally got this on CD, I found it on www.musicstack.com, it's really pretty good, it only cost $16.00, can't go wrong their, I've seen it priced as high as $50.00 US for it!

From: lipstick	Date: May 28, 2002 at 17:02
Thanks frost. And i got the whole 'Bullets...' album too.

From: glaMDawg	Date: June 10, 2002 at 5:40
I really liked these guys. Sound is similar to Kix or Johnny Crash. Cool tunes, but this album definately lacks production. I`ve seen a video for the song "Welcome to the Show" and they look pretty kick ass live.

From: RichieRocker	Date: July 9, 2002 at 21:49
I like "Proud to Be Loud the most! The other songs were ok, but any rocker can appreciate, "Proud to Be Loud".

From: jarett r.	Date: August 13, 2002 at 13:41
someone said something about tommy floyd being in other bands. any info on this?

From: Smokin' Gunz	Date: August 24, 2002 at 14:08
Tommy Floyd is now president of a record label (www.outlawentertainment.com)which incidently is handling former PBF guitarist Peter Parker (www.peterparker.com) and his band Billy Butcher (www.billybutcher.com)

From: Thin Lizzy

Date: September 5, 2002 at 22:58

Cool band !! "Proud to be loud" and "Down on the floor" are standouts on this album. But they were WAY better live and had MUCH better material then whats on this CD. Really bad production. I don't have any idea how they ever got labeled "Glam" anyway... they don't even look it much less sound like it. Saw them live at cbgb's in NY City a coupla years after they'd changed the name to "Tommy Floyd". WAY COOLER!! Wasn't no Glam there either... Just straight up AC/DC Booze, leather n Tattoos RAWK!!

From: jarett r.	Date: September 10, 2002 at 20:24
i've got a copy of the canadian pretty boy floyd's bullets and lipstick. everyone should have a copy of this album. i'm a fan of both pretty boy floyds.

From: RENE	Date: October 13, 2002 at 7:09
Cool band, to me they even look like the American PRETTY BOY FLOYD but more down to earth. There music is not bad. I have it on Lp and i know today its difficult to find.

From: Jay	Date: November 2, 2002 at 4:50
Wow, I heard this and thought it was the US PBF, somehow they sound pretty similar but not as good, In fact the songs did not have the appeal the real PBF had

From: INSIDER

Date: December 12, 2002 at 6:56

Recent interview with Tommy Floyd. Welcome to the Show!! (Inside joke) Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to chat with us. Can you give us a brief synopsis of your personal history for some of our readers who may not be familiar with your name? "In 1989 a group of imposters from LA ran ads in BAM magazine looking for a guitarist to complete their new band "Pretty Boy Floyd"?!. At the time, I was amazed that any band would even attempt to capitalize on all of our sweat." I first

From: INSIDER	Date: December 12, 2002 at 6:57
I called the LA band and inquired about the guitar gig and then asked them where they came up with the name. They openly bragged "some band from Canada!"

From: INSIDER

Date: December 12, 2002 at 6:58

How did the sale of the name "Pretty Boy Floyd" come about? I hope you took MCA to the cleaners! ha! ha! Our band publicity suddenly went from killer to filler. People were writing our fan club and confusing us with the LA band, calling us fags (and by the names) of the LA PBF band members. After a meeting with my manager at the time and our trademark lawyer, we all agreed that enough damage had been done to the name. That even if we decided to hang on to it (as I owned the trademark) there was

From: INSIDER

Date: December 12, 2002 at 6:59

significant damage done. There was so much confusion in the industry and media that know one seemed to know who was who. But the one single fact, we couldn’t overlook was that they were on a "major". Of course, we didn’t let on to the LA band that we were no longer interested in keeping the name. We eventually settled out of court with MCA giving us a nice chunk of change. Are you aware that PBF is still kickin' around? I’d heard the singer was still flogging the act. The band was never very goo

From: INSIDER	Date: December 12, 2002 at 7:00
d to begin with. I was informed shortly after they pilfered the name from us, that they had written very little if anything from their MCA debut. Apparently, they ripped most of the songs from a guitar player that tried out or was in the band for a short while who later sued them. MCA finally did the right thing by dropping them. Fuckers!

From: Raggz	Date: December 16, 2002 at 1:35
Canda's PBF were awesome in there own way. Sure US PBF were awesome and you can't really compare them with this PBF. US PBF I would say was more glam. And Canada's PBF was more sleazier Hard Rock....which was awesome in itself. Two different bands...two differents areas....both major influences in the world of Rock-N-Roll.

From: Cotton C. Lover	Date: January 4, 2003 at 23:32
No where near as good, imo, as the US PBF. More costly to buy, too.

From: LikituP	Date: January 5, 2003 at 2:33
Way better than US PBF IMO. More original sounding and cooler looking. Rock and Roll not Fluff Pop.

From: mick wood	Date: February 25, 2003 at 17:23
I was the coolest guitarest that they never got.maybe sloppy but alwas good for a laugh.

From: jason (FA - Q)	Date: March 22, 2003 at 23:09
"In 1990 PBF got into a major legal battle with the american PBF and ended settling out of court and giving up the name due to legal implications." You know,.... It's funny to think about the legal bull-shit between the two bands, because where the hell are the two now-a-daze? They were fighting over a name that no one will remember! HA! HA!

From: StackAttack	Date: April 3, 2003 at 3:16
Found this review of the album... http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/detail.php3?id=1313

From: JLO	Date: April 3, 2003 at 10:04
Well you may have a point Jason, but I recently saw the CD go for $120 US on Ebay and the sealed Vinyl go for $60 US. They both only put out one album each really over 10 years ago and people are still talking about them. Although the US PBF have released a few CD's over the last few years, they keep rehashing the same songs over and over again.

From: jarett r.	Date: May 19, 2003 at 19:58
i've got both the bullets and lipstik ep & the bullets and lipstik lp. i'm attempting to acquire every recording both the canadian and the american pretty boy floyd have ever made.

From: ace	Date: June 3, 2003 at 2:16
way to glammy even for me being a kiss mark. hair, and lipstick band.the music is fair though.

From: RonnRoxx

Date: June 7, 2003 at 22:54

Pretty Boy Floyd (later Tommy Floyd) were great! And there are a few other recordings out there. I have the Fiasco Brothers CD which had a few bands on it, including 3 songs by Tommy Floyd. I also have a demo tape of TF (1991) which was 4 songs; "Long Way Home", "Love's taxi", "Stagedoor Jane", and "Cheatin' Heart" (written by Hank Williams)... All amazing stuff! I also have a few live concert videos which really show the band at their best - live! I'm still looking for the "Bullets" CD!!!!

From: jarett r.	Date: July 28, 2003 at 17:21
was tommy floyd a solo artist after PBF or was their a band named tommy floyd? were the bassist and drummer in other bands afterwards?

From: Hazardous

Date: August 20, 2003 at 1:49

The band changed their name to TOMMY FLOYD after the legal battle. The original line-up split and Tommmy hired guys to tour with over the next couple of years before he called it a day and went into managing. Pete Parker - has laid low over the last 10 years but is putting out a Solo CD this year. Sandy Hazard played in Grandma Moses, The McRackins, The Retreads and put out several CD's with those bands for info go to (http://www.billybutcher.com/) (http://www.grandmamoses.net) Cheers

From: OLD	Date: February 16, 2004 at 21:50
Let it die already!!

From: Dave Crook

Date: March 17, 2004 at 11:31

I saw Tommy Floyd headline a gig at Rock'n'Roll Heaven on Bloor st. Toronto Aug.29 1991 , I still have the ticket, opening were the bands Cosmic Saints and The Sinisters they were good rock'n'roll , high energy , so I guess this was after they lost the PBF name, there was a good buzz about Tommy Floyd but few people knew about their PBF record they just said Tommy Floyd was going to do something big , the singer for the Cosmic Saints now sings for the Sinisters who are still going in T.O.

From: Lee	Date: March 20, 2004 at 8:27
Tommy songs ruled! Everyone after that just sold out to get a signing contract. He was rock at its finest.

From: jarett r.	Date: September 17, 2004 at 19:46
is their "proud to be loud" the same "proud to be loud" that both keel and pantera recorded versions of?

From: jabba	Date: October 6, 2004 at 2:22
No, Their "Proud to be loud" was an original, not a cover.

From: Dean	Date: November 14, 2004 at 14:58
Hey-does anyone know about a tune called "Drowning at the deep end of a bar"-i downloaded this tune and have no idea where it came from. The sound quality is as good as the "Bullets" disc. Very cool tune-would like to find the demo or ep it came from.

From: Geoff	Date: November 18, 2004 at 22:27
I feel sorry for these guys because they got duped out of the name and all. I like the album title - very cool glam title, but to be honest the music at hand really isn't that much to gawk about. It's not bad, but what you have here, IMO, is pretty average hard rock. Not bad, but certainly not brilliant and nowhere near as good as the US PBF. To many fillers and no real gems...

From: Born:1984	Date: December 29, 2004 at 0:31
wow,i downloaded mp3's for "proud to be loud" and "four for the road" a year back and thought they were from the american pretty boy floyd! i just realised the truth! liked both songs,"four for the road" just oozed attitude,though i would have preferred a better(maybe more in-your-face) chorus for that song....but what the hell,love the song anyway!!

From: Sixxgunner	Date: May 3, 2005 at 14:17
This cd fuckin´roxx, but i like the L.A PBF the most. Does any of you guyz know how much this cd is worth??? I stole my copy from some fucker, thatz why i don´t know the correct price.... Pleaze help me...

From: karlsten	Date: July 21, 2005 at 21:22
Mp3search.ru-.89 us dollars to d\l but must buy 20.00 usd worth of d\l. I don't work for this site- just happened upon it and it has some rare albums of this type.

From: Tollitiger	Date: October 6, 2020 at 5:46
What a Great Release from the Original and much better Version of Pretty Boy Floyd,Great Hard Rock Music for a good Time,every Song goes straight in your Ears,this one Rocks 100%

From: hair metal again	Date: October 3, 2021 at 4:43
very good release for PRETTY BOY FLOYD offering some classic straight 80s hard rock music even with that poor production it shows !nothing really great here but all the basics presentwith songs like "welcome to the show","proud to be loud" and "raggedy anne"!love it

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