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Catalog Number: 7 82485-2
vocals, acoustic guitars, bass
|1. ||Blind Revolution Mad |
|2. ||Down Incognito |
|3. ||Spell I'm Under |
|4. ||In My Veins |
|5. ||Junkyard Dog |
|6. ||The Lucky One |
|7. ||In For the Kill |
|8. ||No Man's Land |
|9. ||Like a Ritual |
|10. ||Who's the One |
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Existing comments about this CD
|From: Paul Kodi
||Date: February 17, 2001 at 0:33|
|Pull is by far the best album Winger produced. Unfortunately it was underpromoted by the label and ignored by a biased grunge happy radio market. Songs such as 'Blind Revolution Mad' & 'Junkyard Dog' express a rage never demonstrated by Winger on previous outings. There is a ballad, of sorts; a song dedicated to Rachel Hunter, the model who left Kip during the previous tour. As you can imagine the song is a touch bitter. Eight years after its release this album still ranks as one of my favorites
||Date: May 4, 2001 at 17:53|
|Anyone who let Beavis & Butthead decide for them that Winger sucked missed a great disc. A much heavier release than their earlier stuff.
||Date: June 18, 2001 at 22:10|
|From: Real Hard Rock
||Date: October 9, 2001 at 3:30|
|this is one of the most craps i ever heard....
||Date: October 10, 2001 at 11:38|
|This disc should have had major radio play. The label blew it by not promoting this one!
||Date: October 22, 2001 at 14:38|
|This is a great disc!! You know from the 80's that released albums in the early to mid 90's rarely had great stuff, but this one is awesome!! Somewhat heavier than the earlier albums, but definitely the most talented effort by Winger yet!!!
||Date: November 11, 2001 at 17:21|
|This is a MUST OWN by any fan of 80's styled metal. This disc is awesome from top to bottom. 'Blind Revolution Mad' and 'Junkyard Dog' highlight the hard edged songs and 'Spell I'm Under' and 'Who's The One' are the bright spots for power ballads. My suggestion is to not let this one slip by.
||Date: November 16, 2001 at 9:28|
|Very, very good. Especially Reb Beach. I remember an interview with Kip Winger, around the time of the album's release. The guy was getting rather upset about being swept aside by the grunge scene bands. His retort? 'Could any of these bands play Junkyard Dog?'. Listening to the complexities of that song the answer is probably in the negative. Well produced, well played and worthy of your attention.Buy it!!
||Date: November 18, 2001 at 7:41|
|A classic! Winger's best by far, get it!
||Date: November 27, 2001 at 18:21|
| The best cd he ever made Junkyard Dog is the best song on the album. It should have been plyed on the radio.
||Date: April 5, 2002 at 11:34|
|The weakest of the three, but a few good ballads. The attempts at being aggressive and trendy are somewhat laughable though.
||Date: April 8, 2002 at 13:29|
|As I have mentioned previously, I am not the biggest fan of Winger's--one of the lamest bands of the 80's lead by the pompous ass Kip Winger, the band's namesake. The only song that I ever thought that Winger did a great job on was 'Battle Stations' which can only be found on the out-of-print Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey sdtrk. That came out a year after their cheeseball blockbuster 'In The Heart Of The Young', & I was hoping that they would continue in that direction. Instead we get 'Pull'. Crap.
||Date: April 8, 2002 at 15:01|
|Dokken6008...wow...first time I disagree with a comment by u...(somewhat) I also love the song Battle Stations and had to buy the damn CD just for the tune...whatever though...granted they are not in DL's league but I like Winger quite a bit...Cant Get Enough is a very good tune/great babe video ..I didnt think Pull was great by any means but not terr..to each their own..cant rip on them like u..now if we are talking Kips solo stuff.that stuff blows big time....Quote the WidoMakr....never more
||Date: April 8, 2002 at 20:27|
|I agree with Richeage. This is the best album of 1993. The lirics are more serious than before. Great ballads and great feeling. If somebody disagree, please indicate me any better cd exit in 1993( not a good year for our music except for this).
||Date: April 9, 2002 at 1:29|
|I don't think this album is all it is cracked up to be. I think it is a solid 7/10 but in 1993 I can name two cd that blew this one away. Guardian's Miracle Mile and a band called Fear Not s/t album. Both are great, still get a lot of play from me.
||Date: April 9, 2002 at 4:34|
|Federico, good point--somewhat. There weren't many good cds to have come out of '93, but I would take Arcade's self-titled debut over 'Pull' ANYDAY. And WidoMakr, thanks. It's okay to disagree once in awhile. I'll see you around. Reb Beach kicks ass!!! As for the rest of the band..........let's not get into it. Later!
||Date: April 20, 2002 at 14:05|
||Date: May 6, 2002 at 23:28|
|Down Incognito was about the only one I got into on this one.
||Date: May 7, 2002 at 10:46|
|For all you Rod Morgenstein fans out there. http://www.rodmorgenstein.com/about.html
||Date: May 7, 2002 at 21:21|
|Hey Everyone, Wasn't that nice of Reno to give us Rod Morgenstein's web-site? My good friend, Reno is a big Kip Winger fan. Just the other day Reno was telling me about the new 'Kip Winger Electric Toothbrush' that he got (batteries not included). Let me be the first to say THATS SO COOL! Now I don't want anyone to make fun of my friend Reno because we all have are vices. See you around.
|From: The Prophet
||Date: May 9, 2002 at 13:17|
|This cd is an absolute master piece. Great ballads full of feelings like who's the one. Powerfull rocker like No man's land. Blind revolution man is a drammatic picture of terrible facts.Kip winger is the best guy on this planet. I know one day is gonna be president of the USA. Regan has made it, Kip can do it as well. Metallica sucks, Winger are the real thing.
|From: The Prophet
||Date: May 11, 2002 at 20:35|
|Take it easy Jason. It was about the fact that an actor became president. No matter how good or bad He was. I love the new track in the latest Winger's compilation called 'On the inside'. So let's shout it out loud for a brand new Winger.
||Date: May 12, 2002 at 2:39|
|God save us!!
||Date: July 23, 2002 at 16:48|
|In my ears Winger were an underrated band. Sure they had some hits, but on this release thay show what theyr capable of. Unfortunately the time was 'UT`for this type of music. This is one of the cd`s I really like from the period of good music. Kip Winger is very talented. I saw him here live a few years ago, just with a guitar and a microphone. Damn does he play good. This guy needs some credit. Cheers..Burb
|From: Steve T
||Date: July 24, 2002 at 10:45|
|I love this album. This is the band's real identity. I agree with dokken6008 that, up until Pull, they were lost and didn't really know where they were going. I think that the whole MTV image is everything mentality caught them off guard and they went along with it. The band are/were consummate musicians and Kip is a great songwriter but his looks were what cost the band ultimately. Which is a shame as the music, on Pull, is easily as good as the best the scene had to offer.
|From: J Scott
||Date: November 4, 2002 at 16:17|
|This has got to be one of the most underated CD's of all-time. Great guitars, vocals. There is not a bad song on this. Still has the Winger sound but just a little bit edgier, without trying to fit into the Nirvana, Pearl Jam scene. Down Incognito and Blind Revolution Mad are two of the best.
||Date: December 15, 2002 at 9:00|
|As the months have passed by (I believe I first discovered Winger about a year ago), my opinion has changed about the band Winger. For some reason, I am now finding that there is something very appealing in the cheesy brand of pop-radio-driven rock 'n' roll that was Winger (this applies almost exclusively to the band's first two releases). Reb is a master guitarist, Kip has a pretty good set of pipes & played the bass very well. Paul Taylor was an EXCELLENT keyboardist. 'Pull'=not my cup of tea.
||Date: December 22, 2002 at 14:02|
|i really don't get what's this winger(especially kip winger)complex all around.they are one of the best bands of their time and they wrote the most challenging stuff which other real lame ass bands couldn't.the ones who diss winger shouldn't be the ones that can criticize 'em.
||Date: January 7, 2003 at 0:00|
| I've heard a few songs from this album and it sounds great. I don't have it, however but I do have 'In the Heart of the Young' which I found very amazing. Does this CD 'Pull' have any pictures of the band in it like 'In the Heart of the Young'? Are they still considered a hair band at this time of 'Pull'(in 1993) and do they still look a hair band? I sure hope so! That would be so cool....eat Winger's dust, Nirivana and Pearl Jam you crap grundge music.
|From: Great Dane
||Date: January 7, 2003 at 0:20|
|Louis`Its two very different albums. My favorite are PULL. Jundyard Dog is worth the album itsekf. Down Incognito is great , but so is most of the tracks. I saw Winger here as guests for Scorpions many years ago...........They blew them away.
||Date: January 8, 2003 at 3:53|
|Hey Great Dane, is Pull comparable to In the heart of the young....what about the pictures in pull?
||Date: January 15, 2003 at 1:34|
|this is album was bit heavy for my taste
||Date: February 23, 2003 at 20:25|
|this is there best album and hardest they had a good guitar player reb beach and if he would have been with them from the beginning i think all of wingers albums would have been on the same hardness as this one
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|From: Blue Charvel
||Date: February 24, 2003 at 14:20|
|Wasn't Reb on all of them up to this point?
||Date: March 23, 2003 at 20:01|
|haha yeah i think Reb was on all of them too!
||Date: April 17, 2003 at 17:17|
|This is a great album caught in a storm called Grunge moviment .. if this album were released i think 4 years before .. have the potencial to be a blockbuster ... otherwise .. this algum has very good songs like Junkyard dog.. amd a couple of ballads.. great ballads ..
||Date: June 7, 2003 at 17:53|
|Blame MTV for grunge. Their the ones that played 'Smells like Teen Spirit' 400 times a day. Pull is pretty heavy for Winger.
||Date: June 24, 2003 at 9:23|
| Can anyone who actually has this album tell me if there are any pictures of the band inside the CD booklet. I'm just curious.
||Date: June 24, 2003 at 15:23|
|Hi Louis, yes, there are pictures inside the booklet.
||Date: June 24, 2003 at 18:00|
|Paulo...Is it pictures of the band...you know....cool pictures like the one in Winger's second album 'In the heart of the young'. Like picutures of the 4 band members standing there? Color?Thanks for the help. Winger and some of theses songs on this album is great
||Date: July 22, 2003 at 22:54|
|awesome stuff with balls
||Date: August 29, 2003 at 7:36|
|Too heavy if we speak Winger. A Few good tracks but nothing more.
||Date: September 18, 2003 at 19:57|
|A bit of a departure from the first two albums as they try and toughen their sound up and strip down the production. Not as instantly accessible as its predecessor this still has some fabulous songwriting and sounds maturer and more emotional. Great. 9/10
||Date: October 11, 2003 at 3:03|
|holy cow people! let the grunge genre die with the clinton administration. this album is indeed a goodie. worth a listen.
||Date: October 29, 2003 at 10:41|
|Easily the best album by Winger,finally Kip & Reb were able to move beyond the hair metal lyrics & show their true influences & training! Junkyard dog & Down incognito are two of the best Winger songs ever! Yes the album was heavier but they never went alternative like so many others!
||Date: November 26, 2003 at 1:07|
|Really like this album. I like their other 2 also, very much. But I'd have to say this is the best of the 3. A little different, heavier. Showcases the talents of the players. Too bad it came out at the same time the 'plague' in American music was in it's infancy (yes, I mean the start of the alterna-shit era!) Maybe it would have been bigger if not for that.
|From: Metal Pete
||Date: January 2, 2004 at 15:51|
|I guess I heard one of the slow ones and I dismissed this cd. I like his debut disc, it's his best in my opinion but I will think about picking it up cheap, for 'JUnkyard dog'
||Date: January 13, 2004 at 6:30|
|Is it just me, or does Spell i'm Under sound like a song that was written by mr Joe Elliot and co. It's not just the kind of song, even Kip's voice sounds like Def Leppard.
||Date: February 4, 2004 at 11:10|
|Dusty, I've always thought the same about spell I'm under. I think you have to take into account the talents of a certain Mike Shipley whom produced this Cd...Whom also produced Lepps Adrenalize...both in my book superbly produced albums. All the backing Vocals are very Leppard indeed. It kinda reminds me of 'Tonight' from Adrenalize. As for this album anyways...I only picked this up recently & it sounds bloody superb to my ears, Not really a Winger fan but this album really rocks. BIG STYLE!
||Date: February 22, 2004 at 9:47|
|Kip said this was his best Winger album, it is a little heavier at times. I really like 'No Mans Land' and 'Spell I'm Under'. Good stuff but not overly memorable except 'Down Incognito' is a nice change of pace. It's worth a fly especially since you can pick it up cheap.
||Date: March 30, 2004 at 1:42|
| It's funny, but i wish this kind of music would come back not that the entire rock scene sucks, in fact the rock, hard rock scene has improved since the grunged years of the 90's. But still i think bands like this(no matter how cheesy)were good. They were about good times, party all day and night,women,women and more women, and everyone knows how depressing life can sometimes be, they don't need bands telling them what they already know, the 80's bands helped you escape from all the b.s. that c
||Date: May 7, 2004 at 10:47|
|You know, I really dont like these guys, but I would have to say this cd is pretty damn good. It should have been their 1st album, I can do without 'Seventeen'(UGH!!). Reb Beach is a mother on guitar though!!! Junkyard Dog is a definite high point for them!!
||Date: May 25, 2004 at 3:56|
|Ahhh..why do winger doesn't 'exist' nowadays? instead,crappy nu-metal bands like linkin park and p.o.d roam the metal industry!If winger were to produce an album today,it will really show the world and those no good nu-metal bands what real hard rock/metal is all about.Move aside,korn!
|From: TIM (2)
||Date: May 28, 2004 at 9:27|
|This is a magnificent album, and the one that really showcased Reb Beach. His titanic riffs in 'Junkyard Dog' and the hanuting acoustic of 'Who's the One' really made his name. And Kip is a very under-rated vocalist, although I can't say I've been a huge fan of his solo stuff.
|From: TIM (2)
||Date: May 28, 2004 at 9:28|
|ooops, that'll be 'haunting' acoustics.
|From: Big Papa K
||Date: June 18, 2004 at 3:14|
|Finally, an album that lives up to the musical reputation of the band. A shift into a more mature, yet harder rocking sound. I love how 'Blind Revolution Mad' changes tempo about two minutes in. One thing that bugged me about the album though was the song 'Down Incognito'. A good song, but it always seemed to me that it was missing an extra verse. 8/10
||Date: June 21, 2004 at 18:40|
|This album had deep and clever lyrics that were often cutting ('Blind Revolution Mad') some sex charged tunes with smoky vibes ('Like a Ritual') and great ballads especially 'Spell I'm Under'. The disc has a unique sound of the likes I've never heard before. You can tell they were attempting slightly to be trendy but stayed true to themselves at the same time. Other good 1993 cds? Try RED DAWN 'S/T' and VIRGIN STEELE 'LIFE AMONG THE RUINS' these are classics too!
||Date: June 21, 2004 at 23:16|
|you know you can look up releases by year. At the top of the page type in the year you are searching for then pull down the tab and select year released. Their was several great releases in 1993
|From: who me?
||Date: June 22, 2004 at 17:50|
|Just wanted to correct Alanna that Red Dawn's cd was not self-titled...it is 'Never Say Surrender.' And it is an excellent cd...'classic' as she has stated above.
||Date: July 20, 2004 at 1:16|
|I just realize that most pop metal bands from the late 80's like skid row,europe and winger all produce albums much heavier than thier late 80's album. For example skir row to slave to the grind or out of this world and final countdown to prisoners in paradise and winger to pull etc. Whats the deal?
|From: Big Papa K
||Date: July 20, 2004 at 1:26|
|Jack, I think this might be because a lot of bands were trying to sound heavier to sound more current as even the polished hard rock albums from 91-92 sound heavier than the polished ones from the late 80's. Warrant's second and third albums are another example of a band producing heavier albums around the time period.
||Date: July 21, 2004 at 5:25|
|And all along i thought hard rock or metal songs from the late 80's were supposed to be heavier cause its the 80's,the decade of hard rock and hair metal,the sunset strips.
|From: Renato Palhano
||Date: August 15, 2004 at 21:24|
|Beavis and Butthead were funny, but they don't understand nothing about hard rock,Winger were not Led Zeppelin but they were a good band, with great musicians, but choaked in a eighteen fashion market ruled by freaks on the chairs of huge record companies,wich almost made hard rock became a Drag-Queen soundtrack!!!Unfurtunelly many bands are seduced by those fat boys in record industry and became a joke to mature audience...
||Date: August 15, 2004 at 22:02|
|This truly is one of the best albums of the entire genre. Brilliant musicianship, amazing songwriting (Lyrically and in terms of arrangements) and just a gem of an album. 'Blind Revolution Mad' is one of the best and biggest openers ever (That riff!!!), 'Spell I'm Under' is one of the best ballads ever recorded, 'Junkyard Dog' is one of the best riffs in history and a killer song, 'No Man's Land' is melodic hard rock perfection and all songs inbetween are great too. Brilliant CD. 9/10
||Date: August 17, 2004 at 17:35|
|Love the end bit of 'In My Veins', makes you skip back in the CD just to listen to it again. 'Down Incognito' is absolutely amazing too. 'The Lucky One' will hit a chord with any bloke who listens to it. Honestly, buy this album now.
||Date: September 4, 2004 at 1:41|
|I was never even close of being a Winger fan, but I can't deny the fact that PULL is an amazing cd. There are a few cheezy moments (they way he sings and what he is singing...made me chuckle). Overall though, this really is a disc to pick up. It sticks with the sound, but alters it to a more modern direction and I don't mean alternative bandwagon. This disc really had a bad timing release. I give this cd high props. Even today, it still is a great listen.
|From: Border Rat
||Date: September 19, 2004 at 18:55|
|Down incognito,spell I'm under,junkyard dog & no mans land are super songs.Like a ritual is also cool because of the drum solo towards the end of the song.On this cd WINGER have more of a harder edge to them but are still within the melodic rock boundary.There are less keyboards on this cd than the 2 previous ones.Overall a very interesting piece of work.
||Date: October 31, 2004 at 0:06|
|awesome cd awesome band saw them 2 yrs ago in ga an they rocked heavy 3 guitar players live an reb an kip an rod were were better than ever this cd was ahead of its time an still is listen to then radio an see
|From: Hairball John
||Date: November 26, 2004 at 21:26|
|Without a doubt this is the best Winger disc. It is a true gem! Check out the audio interview with Reb Beach that we conducted early 2004. He is a great guy and shares insight into this classic Winger disc. Listen to The Hairball John Radio show every week at www.hairballjohn.com for many of the lost classics and new kick ass tunes. The Hairball John Radio Show the past is back to kick your ass!
|From: Sven Pelz
||Date: May 29, 2005 at 6:20|
|Wingers best record and her biggest comercial suicide.
||Date: January 9, 2006 at 10:06|
|A mi el Winger este no me convence.. :P
||Date: September 29, 2007 at 2:03|
|HUGE ABSOLUTELY HUGE 99/100 a TRUE CLASSIC BUY IT NOW !!!!!
|From: Rambo Rockerman
||Date: January 20, 2008 at 12:55|
|Beavis and Butthead were funny but the guys who did that show hated Winger for personal reasons.This CD was their best,a must get.
||Date: March 7, 2008 at 22:35|
|I just got re-acquainted with this CD, I forgot what a great release it has always been. I'll put in my vote for Winger's best album, so many great songs! 'The Ritual' is one of my faves, as are 'Blind...', 'Junkyard Dog' and 'In My Veins'. Also, check out the Japanese bonus track, 'Hell To Pay'. It's such a killer song! An overall kickass CD that I can't put down. If you haven't heard this CD yet, find it!! You will NOT regret it!
||Date: June 17, 2008 at 12:53|
|A true masterpiece of Hard Rock music.
|From: hair metal again
||Date: November 6, 2009 at 0:37|
|winger s 3rd release in a different mood and harder sound but still in the same quality.this an one of a kind album ,a real masterpiece,brilliant.mike shipley in production is perfect,the songwriting is years ahead,and the band performs heavenly.all the songs are fantastic and winger seems to be the one of the best hard rock acts of the 90 s too.excellent release,it s so exciting to listen to good music
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: March 9, 2010 at 8:08|
|Third album with a harder sound and changing somehow the image of "nice boys"..Winger delivered here a great compilation of Hard Rocking songs from the very beginning with that catchy yet powerful opening track "Blind Revolution Mad" then comes a series of excellent songs such as "Down Incognito"(with that particular beat),"Spell I'm Under" (magical),"In My Veins"(another killer track more or less in the same line of Blind Revolution Mad),"In For The Kill","Like A Ritual"(superb)&"No Man's Land"..4 sure an album that you'll like 2 dead!!!...92/100
||Date: February 16, 2012 at 6:10|
|Winger's Pull is one of the very best albums of its era! It simply has it all - excellent songwriting, lyrics and arrangements, great sound and production, Kip's best vocals ever - amazing vocals, can't get any better imo, and all the musicians are matchless here. I've always liked Reb's extraordinary guitar technique and the same goes for Rod's extraordinary drumming! Also the outtake track Hell to pay & later completed & released On the inside are strong. Spell I'm under is one of my all time favourite ballads and the whole disc smokes! There is not one single weak spot here, perfect album imo. 100/100. It's great to see these songs performed on the Winger "LIVE" DVD from '07, they're also an amazing live act, still with their technical abilities intact. That's rare! (Note: Metallica did not help the band, hence the track Hell to pay, but it was the wrong band to attack really, since Kip, Reb, Rod & John are not only better looking, but also musically superior to James, Kirk & Lars.)
|From: HEAVY PARADISE
||Date: August 23, 2012 at 9:17|
||Date: March 8, 2013 at 16:48|
|A harder direction for Winger and it works very well. Blind Revolution Mad, the fantastic Down Incognito (a song I could hear again and again), the smooth Spell I'm Under, the superb hard rocker In My Veins, Like A Ritual and the acoustic bliss of Who's The One make this a winner for fans of the genre.
|From: Ydol eM
||Date: May 8, 2013 at 10:00|
|No doubt about it for me. This is the best Winger's work ever. A MUST HAVE album for everyone who likes arena hard rock. Their most mature album (alike Warrant's Dog eat dog) with the excellent production (Mike Shipley's great job alike Def Leppard's Adrenalize). This album is really worthwhile getting. Highly recommended. 95/100.
||Date: June 7, 2013 at 10:12|
|Bought this one after listening to "Down Incognito" on MTV...Guess I should have listened to the whole thing before buying it no matter what. I agree that it is their hardest release but I still can't get into it. 50/100
||Date: June 7, 2013 at 15:43|
|forget the two extraordinary first winger s records.finish the super class and the super melodic hard fm.here winger play hard with a modern touch.where are the mélodies?mystery .this record is not for me even if "spell i m Under" and "who s the one" are some super songs.i hate the rest.pull the "best winger s record"?it s a joke.
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: June 7, 2013 at 22:10|
|Well, the AOR crowd don't like this disc. Too heavy for 'em, not eenough keys. It's true the songs aren't as accessible, in that there's not a big, radio-ready hook coming at you every thirty seconds. There are also no cringe-worthy songs about underage chicks, although Kip does sing something about being a "dog eating dirty pudding." Alll along, the bandtried to portray themselves as more serious than their tunes would have you believe, but Kip talking about working on his concerto and then singing singing about blue balls and high school girls. On Pull, they finally walk the walk. There are still melodies galore, just not the obvious earworm kind. The songs are heavier, with less of a keyboard presence, and just overall, the songs have something to say (a process begun on In The Heart Of The Young). Reall, there are no bad songs on this disc, and even though it's the band's heaviest, there are still three ballads (just not prom songs like "Miles Away"). Starting the disc off with a s
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: June 7, 2013 at 22:20|
|... six-minute slow-building epic was a pretty ballsy move, but it works. "Down Incognito" and 'Like A Ritual" sound like beefed-up versions of songs that could've been on the earlier albums. My favorite would be the stunning contrast of "Junkyard Dog (Tears On Stone)," which starts out as THE heaviest song the band has ever done (not in a Metallica or Pantera kindd of heavy, but heavy all the same), but abruptly switches to a somber, acoustic second half, almost like two separate songs welded together. Again, not the obvious thing to do, but it works. Although I was a huge fan of the first album back in the day, 20 years later, Pulll is the album I go to most often, and which has aged the best. It's funny to hear the band members, mainly Kip and Reb, still crying the blues, blaming Beavis And Butthead for derailing their career. But honestly, I can remember being eight years old, and the older kids (rockers, too) laughing at this band, and that was when they WERE popular. By the time
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: June 7, 2013 at 22:25|
|Fuck, I'm rambling! By the time Pull came out, it had been well over two years since In The Heart f The Young had fizzled out in early '91, and whatever the band says, tPull really wasn't doing that well even before Stewart drew the ridicule of his neighbors by wearing the shirt on MTV. Maybe if they had recorded this in 1990 and skipped over the second album, things would be different. We're never gonna know. A lot of the bad rap this band got was undeserved, but they kinda brought it on themselves by acting pompous and pretentious while singing silly songs with cheesy videos. Yeah, yeah, I know, everybody was doing it.
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: June 8, 2013 at 0:20|
|1993...the grunge thing was starting to flourish,they couldn't escape that fact so the opted not to change its sounds into that "noise" but to harden it into a more "metallic" sound in order not to dissapoint anybody but to cope or better said "get fashioned" with the sound that was emerging at that time...a 360 degrees change if you compare it with Winger's 2 previous releases obviously!!!...for me the album is not bad,just kinda different but somehow maintaining the characteristics typical of Winger...tracks 1,2,3,4,8,9 & 10 got into radio rotation so the media one way or another received this record with open arms...cheers mates!!!
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: June 8, 2013 at 0:34|
|Radio must've been kinder to these guys where you were, Rick. In the States, oly "Down Incognito" got airplay, and not a whole lot of it.
||Date: June 9, 2013 at 15:11|
|i am always surprised by the passion around this record.i write a short commment about this cd and doghouse write a book.my very close friend alain "toon s bartin"(fantastic guitarist of "chain reaction" )always say to me "hey gilles this is the best winger s record ever".i understand my friend is a real musician,me i m only a simple fan of melodic rock.he have the ear of of musician not me.for me there is two solutions, one winger want to jump on the grunge fashion wagon like def leppard "slang" y&y "musically incorrect" or danger danger "dawn"t" ect ect ect two they want to break the melodic rule of the two first records and play a more technical music.maybe for doghouse not for me.
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: June 9, 2013 at 15:24|
|I lean toward the second of your two options, Gilles. I don't really hear grunge onthis album (or really most of the others you named, although all are much less rooted in the '80's pop-metal sound than earlier work by those bands). It'ss interesting to me to see the dissenting opinions on certain albums. Hell, I've posted a few myself. Like what you like, my friend. It's just music.
||Date: June 9, 2013 at 15:34|
|yes my friend doghouse we have a different opinion no problem.you stay my friend cause we have the same rare passion of melodic rock.keep on rockin!!!!!
||Date: June 9, 2013 at 15:43|
|my opinion is only the opinion of a die hard french a o r fan.one time i m right other time i a wrong.i accept sometimes to be out of....
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: June 9, 2013 at 19:04|
|Yeah my friend Doghouse Reilly!!!...in South America(or at least in Venezuela)radio stations have the mania of when they put a song of a certain worldwide famous artist,they consider that it is not only the "single" that the record company puts as the one to be radio aired but then they take all the songs that could be potential "hit singles" according to some "local" radio hosts and without being approved by anybody ...kinda funny though IMO...cheers mate
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: June 9, 2013 at 19:45|
|Yeah, Rick, it was somewhat that way in the States as well, but no more. You rarely, if ever, hear deep cuts anymore. That's how "Stairway To Heaven" got to be so famouss, incidentally. It was never a single, but DJ's loved to play it so they could use the bathroom or go for a smoke or whatever.
||Date: June 10, 2013 at 4:19|
|Ok, I am not a musician, I am just a fan of of melodic rock music, so to have someone say that "its a joke" when I say this is the best Winger album, I wouldnt go as far as to say its offensive, but its certainly "a joke" that someone would think that my opinion is any less valid than theirs. Also, to say this was grunge bandwagon jumping, when there is absolutely zero % grunge on this album, is another joke. This is the same melodic rock Winger always produced, just with less cheesey lyrics and more heaviness. I love all of Wingers records, including IV, but this and Karma are by far their best, musically and lyrically. And are perfect proof that melody does not have to be lost when you produce something heavier. To me this is in the same ballpark as Warrants Dog eat dog. It wasnt bandwagon. It wasnt trying to appeal to modern crowds. It was just a heavier more serious record.
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: June 10, 2013 at 15:30|
|To CC:"1993...the grunge thing was starting to flourish,they couldn't escape that fact so they opted not to change its sounds into that "noise" but to harden it into a more "metallic" sound in order not to dissapoint anybody but to cope or better said "get fashioned" with the sound that was emerging at that time..." did i mention they changed to grunge???...to say "cope" is like without being grunge,their sound was more heavyness(to use your word)in order to sound more or less "updated" with what bands were doing in music matters back then(not necessarily "grunge")...cheers mate
||Date: September 15, 2013 at 6:38|
|J.Wylder's review must be the best I've ever read on this perfect album. I also think that musically Winger proved with this album they are in the very top league! Probably the best band of the genre. Virtuoso players ALL of them! But with a unique style of their own. This album and Vince Neil's Exposed both came out in '93 when classic hardrock was in decline, but it's not all about sales really, since both albums have stood the test of time and were among the best discs of that whole era. The bloody heavy riffing in Junkyard dog is one of the coolest I've ever heard Yes, very heavy, but fortunately nothing to do with grunge at all. I have the Jap version and I think all songs are fantastic compositions.
||Date: September 15, 2013 at 9:13|
|the two first winger s records are totally different than their others future realise.the debate is very intense on this site.look to my comments, look to dog house ,cc, and others comments we are not agree.no problem i m open mind and accept different opinion than mine.i m not a god.but i m sure they want follow the fashion of 1993.they plays more hard ,more heavy without melodies (except the two fantastic ballads track 3 and 10).i confirm my feeling, in this time they had the grunge and fashion temptation.remember 1993 bands who had the balls to play a o r are "ridiculous stupids and out of time".french and international press specialist in hard rock said that.a shame to write that. .
||Date: June 24, 2014 at 19:09|
||Date: February 29, 2016 at 18:13|
|Este es uno de esos discos que van creciendo en cada escucha, sin duda escucharlo allá por 1993 fue una sorpresa total el cambio en su sonido, y más con la salida de Paul Taylor, se hizo más evidente, una a una van llegando canciones de muy buena manufactura de principio a fin y con las cuales demuestran lo buenos músicos que son. Sin duda este disco no es para todos, y menos para los que buscan el sonido de sus 2 primeros trabajos, pero si en verdad te gusta el Hard Rock éste es uno de esos discos que debes escuchar. A veces las bandas tienen este tipo de momentos en que sacan trabajos que en el momento de sus lanzamientos parecen arriesgados y nada comerciales, y estoy seguro que es ahí donde demuestran lo mejor de su repertorio y su valía como músicos. En verdad una agradable sorpresa, y para quienes piensan que Winger es una más de esas bandas intrascendentes de finales de los 80, con PULL demuestran totalmente su calidad.
||Date: July 8, 2016 at 5:38|
|Man, after all these years I still pull this one out. Don't get me wrong, I love their first two cd's but this one just had more grit/edge/teeth, whatever you want to call it. Both the music and lyrics were much darker than anything they've ever done and it worked with me. I'm sitting hear listening to it now. You can still hear Reb's signature sound on this thing. Out of the 11 tracks (Japanese version has a nice bonus track called 'Hell To Pay'), there are a few weaker tracks but no real duds for me. I loved 'Blind Revolution Mad', 'Spell I'm Under', 'Junkyard Dog' and 'No Man's Land'. One of the few bands that changed their sound during the grunge era that I still like. They went for a more aggressive sound yet remained melodic. Yep, this is the one I STILL reach for when I need my Winger fix. I would love to see them do this whole album live.
||Date: July 11, 2016 at 14:07|
|Completely agree with "headbanger4life." Winger is so underrated it's criminal. This is a real good album and everything they have put out ever since is even better. They got such a bad rap in their early hey-day, which is a shame. Top to bottom there are only a handful of bands that have the musical talent as these guys. Reb Beach, for example, has proven his musical muscle over the years and he continues to slay it today.
||Date: June 18, 2019 at 6:10|
|One of the best CDs from 1993. Criminally underrated.
|From: juan carlos
||Date: March 10, 2021 at 23:35|
|I NEVER got into this one! Sahara is my favorite Winger's album By Far. This is not my cup of tea, yeah, Very well produced, excellent lyrics but the music itself doesn not say anything to me. 7.5/10
||Date: March 11, 2021 at 13:14|
|Hi Juan Carlos, wasn't Sahara by House of Lords? I don't think Winger has released an album by that title.
||Date: March 11, 2021 at 18:17|
|sahara is the first winger record.
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: March 12, 2021 at 2:54|
|Really? That's the first time I've ever heard the first Winger album called Sahara, and I've owned it since 1989. Wonder if it's some kind of a deal like the Whitesnake album that's self-titled in America, and just called 1987 in Europe?
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
||Date: March 12, 2021 at 3:03|
|The band originally wanted to call themselves Sahara, but another band had the rights to the name at the time, so they went with Winger. The artwork for the album was already done, so they just left the "Sahara" on the front cover. The title of their first album is Winger, and I haven't seen it referred to as Sahara, well, pretty much anywhere. There's no version of it (CD, LP, or cassette) referred to as Sahara on Discogs.
|From: Doghouse Reilly
||Date: March 12, 2021 at 13:55|
|Interesting! I learn new stuff all the time. File along with other albums known (by some at least) by "unofficial" names because of their artwork, i.e. Alice In Chains' Tripod and Metallica's technically untitled album.
||Date: March 12, 2021 at 15:00|
|sorry guys,but i confirm you that the first winger record is SAHARA.look the front cover in low at right,it s writing SAHARA.i don t know why discgogs and others name this record same or winger, if you want.for me it s an error.
||Date: March 13, 2021 at 14:16|
|I don't mean to keep the Winger vs Sahara debate going... but I am I guess! I went looking onto discogs, Wikipedia, Google, YouTube and iTunes... The debut is self-titled EVERYWHERE. It is exactly what whiplash said. They wanted to call themselves Sahara but it was taken. The album was never called Sahara though they left it on the artwork.
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