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Category: Hard Rock
Year: 1993
Label: Third Stone/Atlantic
Catalog Number: 7 92300-2
Personnel
Phil Varone drums, percussion, piano
Jason lead vocals, guitar, piano, keyboards
Chris McLernon bass, backing vocals, guitar
Tracks
1. | One Step Closer | |
2. | Space Oddity | |
3. | Water | |
4. | Torture | |
5. | Fields of Rape | |
6. | I Love You | |
7. | Sgt. Steve. | |
8. | My Heart | |
9. | On and On | |
10. | The Way | |
11. | Sentimental Girl | |
12. | Close to You | |
13. | When You Were Mine | |
14. | Reprise | |
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Existing comments about this CD
From: xhani |
Date: May 11, 2002 at 19:22 |
is the best from saigon kick everything from this band i'ts GREAT
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From: hard rockers |
Date: May 11, 2002 at 19:24 |
i like very mach this one
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From: TIM |
Date: May 31, 2002 at 22:20 |
Couldn't stand this one either.
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From: T-BONE |
Date: June 1, 2002 at 6:32 |
This was an awesome cd. You can find it in any bargin bin across the U.S. for a buck or two. These songs kick ass. Very good musicianship and excellant songwriting again.
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From: Billy Boy |
Date: June 4, 2002 at 20:59 |
This CD rules!The best of Saigon Kick is here!!
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From: Billy Boy |
Date: June 4, 2002 at 21:00 |
This CD rules!The best of Saigon Kick is here!!
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From: jarett r. |
Date: August 10, 2002 at 16:42 |
i've heard that chris mclernon recorded with the bands cold sweat and sweating bullets before saigon kick.
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From: Reno |
Date: August 11, 2002 at 3:26 |
Saigon kick were a very underrated band with great musicianship. They were very misunderstood. It would suck to be an awesome rock band with an only hit thats a ballad and doesn't even resemble the rest of their library of music. Love Is On The Way is a very beautiful song, but their real talent was overlooked. They were a very diverse band that could do just about any music style. This cd was just the beginning of that. The next cd called Devil In The Details really explored new ideas.
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From: koogles |
Date: October 27, 2002 at 21:00 |
1993 was a hard year to be hair rocker. Saigon Kick was in the awkward position of having to follow-up a big hit power ballad in a musical climate that had turned suddenly inhospitable. Mr. Big and Firehouse were in the same boat, playing violin as the ship was sinking. Gotta give SK credit for hangin' in there and not going the Warrant/Dokken route. Even though this is my least favorite CD from them, I given them credit for not selling out.
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From: Reno |
Date: October 27, 2002 at 21:22 |
I wonder why this cd sold so badly sometimes. There's great musical diversity here as well as musicianship. Tracks 1, 3 and 4 are the real rockers. I Love You is a great follow up ballad to Love Is On The Way. I still listen to this cd frequently.
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From: Metal Pete |
Date: January 21, 2004 at 18:44 |
Another thumbs-up on this one. It got overlooked, but is solid and well-crafted rock! Every song has good melody and thoughtful lyrics. I listen to it often as well. Easily an 8, make it 8.5.
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From: |
Date: February 28, 2004 at 4:01 |
i love u lyrics
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From: Andrei |
Date: March 15, 2004 at 8:58 |
Very very good!!!
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From: melissa |
Date: April 5, 2004 at 16:33 |
Anyone has the lyrics to When you were Mine?
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From: Big Papa K |
Date: June 14, 2004 at 18:07 |
Down to a trio with the departure of Matt Kramer. With him also leaves some of the quality. But then again, it would be difficult to have followed up The Lizard anyway. Still a strong and diverse album. 8/10
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From: manos |
Date: July 6, 2004 at 16:31 |
Definetely better than Lizzard but still not as important as their debut. Weird melodies, experimental sound...It is not the album that would make new fans, albeit it is charming and interesting.
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From: Rycheage |
Date: July 8, 2004 at 23:40 |
I don't think this was better than 'The Lizard' but it is not a bad CD either. 'One Step Closer','Torture' and 'Fields Of Rape' are excellent hard rock songs in their own right but the real gem is the ballad 'When You Were Mine'. This should've sold better but then hard rock as we knew it was coming to an end.
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From: Metal Jay |
Date: August 1, 2004 at 0:08 |
Great Cd. If you can believe this, I picked this CD up for 20 red cents. Used cd store here in Oklahoma City went out of business, and the last few days their cds were 5 for a buck.
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From: Metal Jay |
Date: August 1, 2004 at 0:18 |
One more thing. Does anyone else think alot of the tracks on this one have a Beatle feel to them?
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From: Carmine Rose |
Date: August 12, 2004 at 18:07 |
This to me doesn't sound any different than The Lizard. If I didn't know better, I would have said Matt Kramer was singing on this album.
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From: Geoff |
Date: September 1, 2004 at 22:46 |
This is the album where these guys lost me... and I don't know why. I really don't. The style is still as Saigon Kick always were, I guess the songs just didn't do it for me at all. Nothing I could take away with joy from this release so I sold it. Just a shame...
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From: Dean |
Date: September 2, 2004 at 15:00 |
Geoff-if you get another chance try to give "I Love You" another listen-one of the best ballads ever written- we even had that song played at our wedding for our slow dance-Saigon Kick and bagpipes-what more could you want for your wedding?
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From: Geoff |
Date: September 5, 2004 at 1:43 |
Hey Dean, this was back in the days when I used to burn a couple of tracks of the CDs before I sold them, and off this one I actually burnt 'Torture', 'Fields of rape' and 'I love you'. So I liked those songs (Though I admit I have not heard them for a very long time), just not the rest, and not those ones enough to keep the CD around...
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From: GlenRavine |
Date: February 28, 2005 at 15:23 |
Brilliant - 'I Love You' - amazing. This grabs you from the opener and never lets you go. What a magnificent DISC.
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From: rick kerch vzla |
Date: May 20, 2007 at 16:21 |
Monotonous and with a lack of feeling.Some people like it,some people do not (a matter of taste,i guess...)and in some commnets people said that bought the album for 10 cents,20 cents and so on.The same happened in my country (Venezuela),i bought it for 2000 Bolivares (less than a dollar!) wich is a miracle in my country!.Anyway being strong in the commnent does not mean that i'm understimating the band.Saigon Kick is a band that was not meant to be record sellers,it was a band(or is) just devot
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From: rick kerch vzla |
Date: May 20, 2007 at 16:23 |
...just devoted to their real fans.5/10
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From: KurtmanJP |
Date: April 7, 2008 at 19:27 |
Without Matt Kramer, the magic just died away...
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From: Wardy |
Date: November 21, 2010 at 4:55 |
Little bewildered at a few of the more recent comments here, but many of the above descripts such as alternative and different are actually quite right, and exactly WHY this album rules! This one's my personal fave from the entire catalog, I think Saigon hit their stride with this one... The loss of Matt's lead vocals hardly noticed, Jason steps in and is talent in spades. This bleeds from super heavy into delicate balladry, opener One Step Closer being the powerhouse the band had only hinted at previously, its change in chorus and guitar solo are perfect, can never get enough of this tune. Torture continues on delivering similarly fine hard rock, but from there we get I Love You and Fields of Rape which while each different, two of the most splendid ballads since their own Love is on the Way. Elsewhere there was a little too much weirdness, good cover tune and some experimental stuff and too little of the oomph, but this is the Saigon album I continue to reach for, hits the spot!
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From: rick kerch vzla |
Date: February 3, 2014 at 15:49 |
Listening to this record again and being objective is not that bad,obviously the band did a drastic change in its music direction and that was typical of the time being(grunge and alternative was around)..."One Step Closer" is my fave song in here...some other decent moments are "Torture","Fields Of Rape","i Love You"(nice),"On And On"(is a song that is hard 2 believe it belongs to the band as it's a straight poppy commercial one)& "When You Were Mine"...75/100
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From: Doghouse Reilly |
Date: February 3, 2014 at 23:03 |
It's funny you say that, Rick, because I always thought Saigon Kick's sound already had a fair amount of grugny/alternative elements in it, as much as the hair-metal they were lumped in with. The first two albums sound pretty different from most of what else was popular at the time. But on Water, we get a lot more ballads and experimental stuff, and nost as much heaviness. The over-reliance on soft songs is what made singer Matt Kramer quit in the middle of recording, in fact. His absence is actually one of the least noticeable changes, since Jason Bieler's voice is already familiar.
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