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CD Title: Violent New Breed
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Category: Hard Rock
Year: 1993
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Personnel
Tim Skold vocals
Harry Cody guitars
Tracks
| 1. | Come Down | |
| 2. | Enemy in Me | |
| 3. | I Come in Peace | |
| 4. | I'm a Gun | |
| 5. | Monkey Needs | |
| 6. | Jihad | |
| 7. | Overkill | |
| 8. | Rain | |
| 9. | Revolution | |
| 10. | Sex | |
| 11. | Violent New Breed | |
| 12. | Side Fx | |
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| From: jason (FA - Q) |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 21:49 |
| I was a big Shotgun Messiah fan back in the day. I liked the vocals on the first album alot (he was a screammer!). The second album was better all around though. When this album came out I didn't buy it. Just by looking at the cover I could tell they were trying to do something different. It looked to me like they were going 'Industrial' with their music and I didn't care for that. I haven't heard this album so I don't know that for sure?
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| From: TIM |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 21:56 |
| I just got through listening to their 1st release. My ears are nearly bleeding. It was worth it though.
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| From: jason (FA - Q) |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:06 |
So, TIM. Are you trying to single handedly bring down this website? Don't piss Dan off like that. Like he said, he works alot of hours and dumps alot of his own money into running this site. I have a great time coming here and reading about these bands. I would like to see this site stick around for a while so, Chill Out!
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| From: TIM |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:09 |
| It had nothing to do with how fast he was getting the cds out. We resolved the matter though.
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| From: TIM |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:18 |
| It had to do with the 'Important' message where you add cds. Also, I sent him money and something happened to it. He was busy and couldn't return my emails. He shouldn't be having to spend too much money out of pocket if people would make more donations. $20 every so often won't hurt anybody. People obviously didn't read what I had written very well, it wasn't about him being lazy whatsoever. Enough of this discussion.
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| From: TIM |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:31 |
| If Dan receives some funds he'll be less tempted to close this site down. His message wasn't just toward me, it was to everybody. That means all the gripers.
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| From: TIM |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:34 |
| email me at rio1harris@aol.com if you wish to discuss this further. Let's get back to the music.
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| From: TIM |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:35 |
| By the way jason, no one likes your bitchin' any better than they like mine.
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| Heavy Harmonies Owner |
| From: Dan |
Date: August 20, 2002 at 22:51 |
| As Tim said, everything's been worked out. No blood, no foul. I hope to have a real message board system for this type of stuff up later tonight or at the worst tomorrow. Once its been tested for a while and I know its stable, I'll go back through and clean a lot of this stuff out...
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| From: JASPOUILLE |
Date: September 1, 2002 at 0:04 |
| WHAT A SURPRISE?...INDUSTRIAL ? MAY BE BUT POWERFULL GUITAR ATTACK AND A CERTAIN SENS OF MELODIE.NOT BAD AT ALL BUT DONT EXPECT AN AOR LP
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| From: nitrodoll |
Date: September 2, 2002 at 11:55 |
| i liked this album , no doubt about it although industrial isn't my thing (the name shotgun messiah made me buy this album), but i wondered how the songs would sound without the industrial touch, probably good cos there's some good songwriting on this disc nitrodoll1974@hotmail.com
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| From: Kim |
Date: September 9, 2002 at 15:17 |
| This is just about the only ``industrial`` cd I like. Good stuff, very energetic and with some great tracks.
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| From: ARXONTAS |
Date: January 11, 2003 at 10:08 |
| First i read that best bonfire song is sword and stone!!!{paul dean's was better)Now that 'violent new breed' is an industrial album???!!! like Fear Factory? like Tool maybe? or like Frontline Assebly?.Grunge at 1994 was at first steps and industrial also with the meaning of todays industrial bands.More heavier sound means industrial,grunge or hardcore???Open your books before you add comments or give some more few spins to this album .Absolutely No Alternative
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| From: Great Dane |
Date: January 11, 2003 at 10:42 |
| ARXONTAS. Book, or no book. This is close to Industrial. Perhaps they were a little ahead of time, right. That happens. This is a good release though.
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| From: ARXONTAS |
Date: January 11, 2003 at 11:34 |
| Great Dane.I forgot to said that clearly thats not my favorite Shotgun Messiah album for sure,but its not fair with so easiness to drop that into industrial recycle bin.Anyway thats my opinion.É dont force anyone to agree with me.Õou can accept it but you can also leave without it...Well-intentioned comments are welcome anytime for me...Abslolutey No Alternative...
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| From: G |
Date: January 11, 2003 at 20:32 |
| ARXONTAS. Its not my favorite either. Still not bad.
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| From: kregnorson |
Date: January 27, 2003 at 17:51 |
| C'est un album Genial.... Grace a cet album TIM SKOLD nous fait decouvrir que c'est un Genie...Violent New Breed est pour moi le commencement de la carriere d'un des meilleur compositeur de metal industriel....
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| From: GlenRavine |
Date: February 12, 2003 at 19:27 |
| Man - was this ever disappointing. After hearing their first two release - this is a far cry for what the band can really do. I guess they got caught in the grunge-era. Truly disappointed. Not recommended for those who loved the first two releases.
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| From: Scott |
Date: February 12, 2003 at 20:18 |
| Shotgun Messiah do a stylistic U-turn with this industrial tinged metal gem. I had many warnings from friends as to how 'bad' this CD was. Once again, always check out music for yourself because despite this album being very different from the band's other discs, it is still quite good, and very heavy. Shotgun Messiah, while being accused of following trends, deserves credit for creating an early industrial album that is built around heavy metal song structures and vocal melodies. 8/10
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| From: Trick Taylor |
Date: February 12, 2003 at 20:24 |
| These guys got a lot of flack for their ever changing approach to music. Album #1- pure glam sleeze, #2- hard-edged pop tinged metal, #3- the perfect marriage of hair and industry. This is far from the mindless clunking and clanking of most industrial releases. It has harmony, hooks, and brains. Give it a few spins with a fresh mind and it will grow on you. 'Monkey Needs' is as aggressive a song as is allowed on this site. This is a Trick Top Ten entry for sure. Skold now in Manson.
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| From: Reno |
Date: February 12, 2003 at 21:54 |
| I only liked a few tunes off this cd as well. It took me a few listens, but about 3-4 are actually pretty good as far as i'm concerned. Sex is my personal favorite. If you take it and compare it to same style bands like KMFDM, NIN and rage Against The machine, it easily compares or surpasses them. If you compare it to their previous cd's, you'll probably not like it too much. Like Trick said...give it a listen with an open mind.
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| From: Audiorobb |
Date: February 25, 2003 at 6:37 |
| I bought this CD with plans of getting back to my glam slam roots. That was hard to do in the early 90's. Boy, was i surpiised. i actually did like the cd and it sort of opened my mind to the industiral scene.
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| From: reebboy |
Date: February 26, 2003 at 6:46 |
| When I first listened to this CD it took me a week to scrape my brains off the wall. This is byfar one of the best CD I have ever heard. They took the 80's sound and cranked it up to 20. The songs are heavy and catchy as hell with a slight industrial sound thrown in. I can't help but play this at full volume everytime I listen to it.
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| From: HG |
Date: May 24, 2003 at 5:10 |
| Yes, it is industrial, but it still rocks. When they released this, they knew that they were losing their record label (Relativity was becoming all rap), so they gave it one more shot. It was a foreshadowing of Skold's later work. I'm glad I found this one.
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| From: Rycheage |
Date: May 25, 2003 at 23:41 |
| Many fans of industrial metal probably avoided this record at the time of its release due to Shotgun Messiah's silly, commercial rock history, but those fans should reconsider the decision should they be lucky enough to spot Violent New Breed during a visit to the record store. To those obsessed with the minutia of metal history, this might actually qualify as an important disc, with its brutally fat, eight-note grind that set a new standard for mechanical heaviness.
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| From: koogles |
Date: May 27, 2003 at 2:07 |
| For some stupid reason, I like this CD.
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| From: Scandinavia |
Date: October 14, 2003 at 13:08 |
| This release from 'Bandwagon Messiah' (hehe) was released in 1993...Not 1994...
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| From: Gar |
Date: November 7, 2003 at 5:27 |
| Straightfoward hard rock songs played in the style of Ministry(who were quite popular at the time). This style change shouldn't have worked, but somehow it does! Good, solid disc. Certainly predates the Nu-Metal bands of the late 90s.
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| From: Fat Freddy |
Date: December 22, 2003 at 13:15 |
| Strangely enough, I couldn't really get into the old Shotgun Messiah material (other than the classic single 'Heartbreak Blvd.') but I loved this album! It beat guys like White Zombie to the punch by at least a year. It was a pain in the ass to find this on CD too!
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| From: Sakkage |
Date: March 9, 2004 at 13:46 |
| When this came out I read a good review in a magazine & having liked Heartbreak Blvd. I went out & bought it. Man, what a shock! Like reebboy further above it also took me at least a week to scrape my brain off the wall. I told a friend that 'if Ministry and Skid Row fucked & had a kid it would be Violent New Breed.' Still one of my favorite albums ever.
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| From: Joey K |
Date: March 12, 2004 at 0:08 |
| Did you know V.N.B. started as more like a 2nd coming 2??? it wasn't untill Bobby & Stixx left that Tim & Harry took the written material to Cybersank in Sweden to go industrial with it. I got the demo's, it's wild to hear the origional hard rock versions of the songs. Hell, some of them had different lyrics & titles!
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| From: tallboy |
Date: May 8, 2004 at 21:51 |
| This is a fantastic album! you feel you just have to keep winding the volume up. Second Coming ranks as one of my favourite albums of theres. VNB was well ahead of its time. If it was re-released (and got airtime it deserves) I reckon it would go down a storm today. For better or worse SM didn't seem to be afraid to reinvent themselves with each album. All I can say is Thank God!!
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| From: Big Papa K |
Date: June 14, 2004 at 21:53 |
| Once again, Shotgun Messiah switch sounds, this type to a industrial metal sound. Longtime fans might be dissapointed by this, but this is another solid addition to the Shotgun Messiah catalog. 7/10
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| From: Carmine Rose |
Date: August 14, 2004 at 8:04 |
| Joey K's right. If you really listen to the songs, you can still hear a little bit of a Second Coming feel, just with industrial effects thrown on top.
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| From: Geoff |
Date: August 14, 2004 at 23:30 |
| Heavy as f*ck and I love it! Great metal CD for an always great band. I like it a lot - great metal songs and few fillers! 7.5/10
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| From: Kryiis Karl |
Date: October 22, 2004 at 1:44 |
| Seems this band searched its way from beginning to end of their career. But nevermind as long as the music is good, and it is. One cannot but wonder if it is artistically 100% honest. Maybe a reunion to come for a R&B release ? And maybe a good one ? Seriously they were talented whatever the style. Unpredictable but funny.
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| From: YNGWIEVIKING |
Date: August 28, 2007 at 2:28 |
| IMO the songs are good in the same "second coming" style but with some kind of industrial production/LOOPS/noises/fx ! Not bad but kind of weird ! For the real fans only !70/100
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| From: DNOMYTE |
Date: May 22, 2009 at 18:29 |
| their final release was amazing if only people would give it a chance.
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| From: shotgun_argentina |
Date: January 16, 2010 at 23:00 |
| Joey k. For the lov of God. Can you sell me that copy of demos? Please contact me.
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| From: shotgun_argentina |
Date: January 16, 2010 at 23:04 |
| This Cd is owesome and there is no comparision as it is said in many site (whit zombie, ministry) This hard rock with modern techno industrial metal. There are no bands that in 1993 make this kind of music. This guys should have been great, if this cd is re-issue...we wil have a big surprise for metal lovers- I haven been listening this for 10 year and there is no album such as this. Wish they got together again..
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| From: shotgun_argentina |
Date: March 7, 2010 at 23:04 |
| All songs are kick ass songs, pure hard rock and heavy metal industrialized. The song "Rain" is still the best song i have ever heard in all my life..
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| From: metalmaniac777 |
Date: February 1, 2012 at 13:26 |
| If you despise industrial metal, you'll want to stick a shotgun in one ear and pull the trigger to blow the noise out the other after listening to this CD, but there is no denying this project was several years ahead of its time. Merging hair-metal songwriting with grinding industrial production should have worked about as well as praying to the Pope to endorse gang-bang porn, but somehow, against all odds, it does. The sound is intense and heavy and, yes, a little violent. It's not going to appeal to everyone, especially those who hate anything that paints outside the normal parameters of late 80s/early 90s metal, but the more experimental headbagers out there should appreciate the innovation on display here. This annihilates Nine Inch Nails and makes White Zombie sound like a waste of space.
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| From: CMGio |
Date: March 8, 2012 at 15:38 |
| This CD is one you need to take with a big ol' grain of salt, especially if you were a fan of Shotgun Messiah before this release. Now, like metalmaniac777 said, it works. And although it's outside the parameters of what I typically like, it's pretty good for what it is, all things considered. I still like the earlier albums (much, much) better, but I've always felt like this one gets a bad rap a little unfairly. Give it a listen with an open mind, and you might just be surprised what you think.
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| From: Dramarama |
Date: April 18, 2024 at 2:42 |
| I bought this album the day it came out. As far as I know it was the 1st Industrial Glam album and bands like The Newlydeads and Mona Lisa Overdrive followed suit. I love this album and still listen to it pretty regularly.
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