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Rage for Order
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Category: Melodic Metal
Label: Emi (Japan)
Catalog Number: CP32-5180
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Geoff Tate vocals|
Chris Degarmo guitars
Michael Wilton guitars
Eddie Jackson bass
Scott Rockenfield drums
2003 re-issue with bonus tracks
|1. ||Walk In The Shadows ||3:34|
|2. ||I Dream In Infrared ||4:18|
|3. ||The Whisper ||3:36|
|4. ||Gonna Get Close To You ||4:37|| ||Cover: Dalbello|
|5. ||The Killing Words ||3:56|
|6. ||Surgical Strike ||3:20|
|7. ||Neue Regel ||5:04|
|8. ||Chemical Youth (We Are Rebellion) ||4:05|
|9. ||London ||5:05|
|10. ||Screaming In Digital ||3:38|
|11. ||I Will Remember ||4:38|
|12. ||Gonna Get Close To You 12" mix bonus track ||5:46|
|13. ||The Killing Words live bonus track ||4:10|
|14. ||I Dream In Infrared '91 acoustic remix ||4:01|
|15. ||Walk In The Shadows live bonus track ||3:41|
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|Total Running Time:|| 63:29|
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Existing comments about this CD
||Date: August 5, 2003 at 13:41|
|I remember watching the video for "Gonna Get Close To You" for the 1st time- what vocals!
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
||Date: August 10, 2003 at 8:56|
|Ahh, the first Queensryche disc I ever owned. At the time, Queensryche was quite a bit heavier than what I usually listened to (Quiet Riot, Ratt, etc.)but I really got into their sound. "Walk in the Shadows"(my fave from this release),"Gonna Get Close to You", "Neue Regel", and "London" are all killer tracks.
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
|From: Blue Charvel
||Date: August 11, 2003 at 6:00|
|Took me awhile to get into this one. When it came out I had much simpler tastes, and was really looking for something more like the debut EP. Warning was a little lighter, and then this one was even weirder...now it's one of my favorites. Really some unique songwriting IMHO. Still like Walk In The Shadows the best off this one...I also remember seeing the vid for Close To You, and thinking "what the hell is up with these guys?", I think I also thought Mick Mars was a good player then...
||Date: August 18, 2003 at 10:52|
|Too slow for me. But I don't know why do I like this album, maybe because their weird looks of vampires or something. It reminds me of weird horror movies, hahahaha... Hey, I didn't say it sucks. Soft, but strange and weird. That's what I like from a band, a weird look.
||Date: August 18, 2003 at 15:02|
|Yes, i love their looks too on this album. Far better then today, they just look like POP BOYS to me. This is a great melodic heavy metal album that i HAIL, yessssss
||Date: August 19, 2003 at 14:00|
|Brave, brave album from a band who were genuinely attempting to bust the envelope. It'll take you months to understand it properly, because the song arrangements are very complex and the lyrics just waaaaaay out! (how about Screaming in Digital, which is about 2 computers talking to each other?). A unique album, which I would recommend to anyone who yearns to try something a little different....but the real Queensryche gem was just 2 years away.
||Date: November 15, 2003 at 12:17|
|EXCELLENT album.......possibly their best!! Great arrangements, playing & songwriting. I think this is where it all came togther for Queensryche, and definitely set the stage for their next album, Operation Mindcrime, which is also just Fantastic!!!
||Date: December 18, 2003 at 6:12|
|The odd samples and such on this disc can be attributed to producer Dave Ogilvie. He produced all the Skinny Puppy CD's and has worked with NIN and Marylyn Manson. They recorded this CD at Greenhouse in Vancouver.
|From: Metal T
||Date: January 7, 2004 at 12:32|
|This one is terrible.Rage' is pretty weak,and fails to impress.Makes real metal fans like myself long for the days of that exceptional first "Queensryche" Ep .
||Date: January 7, 2004 at 15:07|
|No disrespect Metal T- but you're nuts. This album rules. Up until Empire- Queensryche was the epitome of perfection. "Walk in the Shadows" and "London" are awesome just for starters. It was this album that was a stepping stone for me to find even more tripped out stuff like Cynic, Watchtower, Sanctuary(Gods), Athiest, Death, Fates Warning, Lethal, and many more. Ironically it was when Queensryche started to achieve a lot of commercial suc. was when i kind of lost interest.
|From: AOR freaky
||Date: January 8, 2004 at 5:19|
|Metal-T : this album weak ? ! What a joke ! It's damned great, theatrical hardrock ! Then Queensryche was still a top act and their records exceptional good !
|From: Metal T
||Date: January 13, 2004 at 13:56|
|This is indeed weak,especially when compared to 'Fates Warning's "Awaken The Guardian" which was released in '86 the same year as 'Rage."Guardian" is by far superior to this and John Arch's vocals surpass Tates' on it as well .
||Date: January 13, 2004 at 19:55|
|Well- comparing Rage to Fates best album ever doesn't make Rage weak so much as demonstrate how mindblowing Awaken is. Pretty much my favorite song of all time is Fata Morgana because of Arch's vocals(esp the line that starts with "merlin the wizard") but Tate's vocals still sound awesome. Other vocalists around this caliber were Dane from Sanctuary and Midnight from Crimson Glory. The fact that you have great taste in other bands like this blows my mind that you don't like Rage.
|From: AOR freaky
||Date: January 15, 2004 at 9:41|
|Right Dean ! I really don't understand you, Metal-T ! I also find Fates Warning a great band, but this CD is also bloody great ! Can't see much difference between 'em !
||Date: January 19, 2004 at 6:27|
|Strange & beautiful album! "Gonna Get Close...", "Screamin' In Digital" and "Dream In Infrared" are great!
|From: Metal Pete
||Date: February 20, 2004 at 12:15|
|Always liked 'Walk in the Shadows' from this release. Hard not to like this album, very original stuff.
||Date: April 18, 2004 at 21:34|
|A mad accident of metal and old school industrial sound that could be attributed to bands like Skinny Puppy and Front Line Assembly. In fact that Dave Ogilvie was a major production person for Skinny Puppy at the time and was integral in shaping the sound for this album. From the robotic sounding drums to the excessive use of synthesizers and electronics, RFO was far ahead of its time and above the typical hair/glam fare that Queensryche found itself sandwiched with during the eighties.
||Date: April 30, 2004 at 13:26|
|Couldn't agree more w/ Gothprog. Queensryche were representative of a brand of heavy metal that delved deeper than booze, chicks, and fast cars. The sophisticated instrumentation, the mature lyrical content, and the Priest-like intensity combined to make Queensryche one of only a handful of 80s metal bands to make a difference. One of their best efforts and one of the best of the 80s in general.
|From: Big Papa K
||Date: June 27, 2004 at 23:00|
|Once again, another sound change. This time they add in industrial elements. This works pretty good, especially on "Walk In The Shadows" and "I Dream In Infrared". The cover of "Gonna Get Close To You" is one of the better cover songs out there. The rest of the album holds up pretty well. 8/10
||Date: August 10, 2004 at 11:38|
|El disco donde la banda encuentra su estilo propio, saliendo de Iron Maiden, un gran disco
||Date: August 19, 2004 at 23:52|
|What is this album-progressive metal or melodic metal? The people from brutalmetal site says its pure progressive metal and this? anyway,whats thereal difference of melodic and progressive metal?
||Date: August 20, 2004 at 13:18|
|Jack- screw the labels this album is awesome anyway but Big Papa K you have me really confused. You said "gonna get close to you" is a cover. Who did the original? I always thought this was THE original. Clue me in please-anybody?
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
||Date: August 20, 2004 at 13:24|
|Well I'll be damned! Did some checking, and "Gonna Get Close to You" is indeed a cover song; it was originally done by Canadian DANCE diva Lisa Dal Bello.....weird!
||Date: August 22, 2004 at 12:17|
|I simply can not imagine "gonna get close to you" as a dance tune. Queensryche achieved such a perfect and creepy atmosphere with that tune-it's kind of like telling me Led Zepplin didn't write "Stairway to Heaven" Zeesh......i need to hear that original. Thanks for the info guys.
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
||Date: August 22, 2004 at 12:37|
|'Gonna Get Close To You' Certainly wasn't a dance tune, neither is Dalbello a dance diva - It's on her 'Whomanfoursays' cd which is superb all around. Also check out the 'She' and 'Whore' cd's both excellent, all definately ROCK.
||Date: August 22, 2004 at 13:01|
|I found the original online-def. not a dance tune. She has the same venom in her voice as Tate, no wonder they picked this as a cover. Even the original is kind of on the heavy side. Like a twisted Eurythmics.
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
||Date: August 22, 2004 at 13:32|
|LOL...well, it's actually nice to hear that "Gonna Get Close to You" WASN'T a dance tune...the site I found (I'll have to re-google it) had Dal Bello listed as a dance diva...oh well....
||Date: September 8, 2004 at 5:53|
|Metal T-i Think its hard to say which album is heavier-empire or this one cause there are heavy and not so heavy songs in the album. Songs like surgical strike,chemical youth and screaming in digital is pretty heavy while songs like i will remember,walk in the shadows and dreaming in infra red are pretty weak. I don't think throwing in a few really heavy metal songs will work.
||Date: September 14, 2004 at 6:52|
|I don't think i've made a full comment on this album yet so here it goes-I think this is not your typical straight ahead metal album and some songs are pretty weak for a standard metal band,in my opinion. But this album is still an absolute class act that only a band of queensryche's calibre would produce. with excellent tracks like surgical stike(the most straight metal tracks in this album),london,walk in the shadows,dream in infra red and even the ballad,i will remember.ratings:9/10
||Date: October 23, 2004 at 22:55|
|Does it get better than this??? Not much. Although The Warning has some better songs on it, it does not touch this one as far as continuity. With songs like Walk in the Shadows, I Dream in Infrared and Gonna Get Close to you, they made a close to perfect album. I like all the albums up to Promised Land. If you have not been introduced to the world of Queensryche, start with this album and them evolve much like the band has.....Not saying that the evolution has been good. Cut it off at Empire
|From: Elton Braga
||Date: November 8, 2004 at 11:45|
|It doesn´t sound as a standard Hard/Heavy band, it´s fantastic! Songs as Screaming In Digital, I Dream In Infrared, The Killing Words and others are simply outstanding!
||Date: November 30, 2004 at 21:21|
|Every Ryche album has some that are good, some that aren't so good. This one is the same, but I had to have it just like all of the rest because these guys are an awesome band.
||Date: February 5, 2005 at 10:50|
|I totally disagree with Propane. Every Ryche record(except "hear..") has some good and some divine songs. Here we have 11 diamonds of music. This is the history of metal progress. 10^n/10 (n->10000000000000000000000)
||Date: February 5, 2005 at 10:52|
|PS Have pity for all the stuborn Metalheads who fail to understand the magic hidden in this one...
||Date: April 11, 2005 at 3:36|
|simply one of the best metal albums of all time.And for me ryches finest moment!!A must have for every thinking metal and hard rock fan!An album for people that hear music with their ears and not with their necks!!!Simply a masterpiece.Tate does for my opinion the best vocals in his career!!!Buy or die!!!Hear the advice from an eternally devoted ryche fan...
|From: Trick Taylor
||Date: June 2, 2005 at 14:17|
|Boy was I wrong! Saw the Ryche last night open for Priest and their set was filled with the non-hits. I question the wisdom for playing stuff nobody knows when given the chance to rock in front of 6-7000 a night. So much for the back catalog sales. Swing and a miss from the Ryche. There were at least 4 songs off of Rage, which sent me ragin to the concourse for more beer. The new track from MCII sounded cool though.
||Date: August 25, 2005 at 22:05|
|By this time it became pretty evident I really wasn't going to dig this band aside from the ballads. Just not my thing. I really like 'Killing words' off this album, and 'London' is pretty cool too. As for the rest of it... best left for the fans of this sort of stuff, because that sure as hell ain't me in this case.
|From: juan carlos
||Date: February 20, 2007 at 10:54|
|Tremendo disco, todo un clásico. Esto era el preludio a lo que se veía venir con el "Operation Mindcrime". Tate ya todo un consagrado y los solos de Degarmo son excelentes. "Walk in the Shadows" "Surgical Strike" o "Chemikal Youth" son escenciales, las mas rifferas y directas, Tate se despacha con todo en las "lentas" y claro "The Killing Words" define este tipo de temas con el sello Queensryche. Album super-conceptual pero que no raya la genialidad como en el OP. Super-Recomendado. 9/10
||Date: November 5, 2007 at 15:04|
|The weakest of the four 80s Queensr˙che albums, although it is still a good album overall. Songs like "The Killing Words", "Surgical Strike", and "Neue Regel" are among Queensr˙che's best songs. However, there are one or two filler tracks that bring the album down a bit ("Gonna Get Close to You" is extremely boring). Overall, it is an enjoyable effort, but you should give it time to grow on you. However, get Operation: Mindcrime, The Warning, and the self titled EP first.
||Date: January 13, 2009 at 16:05|
|In my opinion, one of the best discs ever! The band evolved from the simple metalband they were on the first E.P. and this effort shines brighter than ever 23 years later. Amazing! 10/10
||Date: July 11, 2009 at 21:31|
|I absoulutely love everything about this disc...from their look to the killer songs. I would have loved to have seen them on tour when this came out but, sadly, I missed them
|From: Remastered Reason
||Date: October 26, 2009 at 3:15|
|Pulled this out from the archives & wondered how it sounded after years of neglect. Overall, the slower tunes hold up the best though all of it is well crafted art with the interplay between Tate's vocals & the bands moody melodies. The remaster version has a great live version of the haunting tune "Killing Words". Their third best album behind "Mindcrime" & "Empire".
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: April 30, 2010 at 10:00|
|This album amazingly took me some spins to dig it and honestly knowing that is a very good one,didn't like me at all...the band in here stated a very technical sound and lost a bit just a bit of their more or less heavy sound,anyway "Sugical Strike","I Will Remember" a smooth and very nice song,"Screaming In Digital" and "We Are Rebellion" this one conserves something their root sound are classics for some of us...i imagine that this album was or still is the inspiration of Dream Theater...88/100
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: April 30, 2010 at 10:03|
|"We Are Rebellion"..this one conserves something of their root sound and is a classic along with the other songs i mentioned..at least for some of us...
|From: Ydol eM
||Date: June 20, 2013 at 7:29|
|Without "Rage for order" wouldn't have been "Operation..." or "Empire". I remember when this album appeared, it took me rather a long time to get into it, but it was worth giving it its chance. This hard n'heavy music is progressive in the real sense of the word. I would compare it to Rush on steroids . 85/100.
|From: hair metal again
||Date: February 5, 2019 at 13:07|
|this is the release that we all understood that QUEENSRYCHE is a great band !unique approach ,flawless talent and amazing hooks that keep the interset in every tune along with the expected capable musicianship!"walk in the shadows"," i dream in infrared","gonna get close to you","the killing words" are excellent songs indeed!classic
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