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Hugo lead vocals|
Neil Christopher drums
Adam Holland guitars
Craig Pullman keyboards
Gerard Zappa bass
|1. ||Runnin' On Luck Again ||5:54|
|2. ||No Way ||3:46|
|3. ||Tears In The Night ||5:29|
|4. ||Too Much Is Never Enough ||4:51|
|5. ||Never Said It Was Gonna Be Easy ||6:49|
|6. ||Where Are You Now ||4:38|
|7. ||Naughty Girl ||4:25|
|8. ||Once In A Lifetime ||3:41|
|9. ||Someday ||4:08|
|10. ||We Run ||3:49|
|11. ||You'll Always Have Me ||5:29|
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|Total Running Time:|| 52:59|
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||Date: July 4, 2001 at 15:23|
|Great melodic hard rock! A heavier version of Journey with Perry-like vocals from Hugo and great guitar work from Adam Holland. This is more hard rock-oriented than the Open Skyz CD by the same musicians.
||Date: July 31, 2001 at 7:47|
|They sounds like SKAGARACK, just in a party version. Greatest!!!! Sad that they dont excist anymore. A mega rarity. I love this cd!!!!!
||Date: August 10, 2001 at 8:10|
|aaaaawwwwwwwwsssssssoooeee!!! great album
||Date: August 29, 2001 at 12:33|
|I saw these guys live and Neil was the most awesome drummer I ever saw! Killer drum set and solo! They were much better live than on the album. I heard rumors that they might be getting back together - hope so!
||Date: November 16, 2001 at 8:49|
|It's slightly over-produced but it did show promise. I agree that it's a more guitar orientated album than the, later, Open Skies, project. Actually I sold this CD 5-6 years ago and I still regret that fact!!!!
||Date: December 29, 2001 at 16:37|
|good rock cd. hard to pick out a song but here goes. 'Too Much is Never Enough' and 'You'll Always Have Me' are great songs.
||Date: January 1, 2002 at 13:45|
|Wow, a glam CD that also has enough AOR elements to make a Survivor or Journey fan wet in their seats. AMAZING. This is one CD you MUST own. If this CD was any more killer, it would be in line for the electric chair!! BRILLIANT. ESSENTIAL!!
||Date: January 24, 2002 at 19:14|
|Koogles...got to admit u r right on this one....They have songs in here that Journey couldnt do any better...very good/unknown band....definitely worth cloggin the hard drive with...quote the WidoMakr....never more
||Date: January 25, 2002 at 2:27|
|I wouldn't compare boring Valentine with a brilliant band like Survivor. Nice melodicrock not more. The Singer Hugo is now on his own, just called HUGO, even more boring!!!
||Date: March 5, 2002 at 21:44|
|This album should have had better success - the musicians are all talented and it clicked together brilliantly into a hard rock classic that no-one really knows about!
||Date: March 31, 2002 at 17:02|
|Glam CD - ?????
||Date: May 6, 2002 at 19:09|
|Excellent Disc!!! Heard they might have some other material coming out that wasn't released. Hope So!!!
||Date: June 20, 2002 at 7:54|
|excellent disc..so glad i have it... where are you now is my favorite song firstname.lastname@example.org
||Date: July 23, 2002 at 17:14|
|This band had much potential, and were highly under-rated. The unfortunately got on the trail at teh end of the 80's rock era. Grunge took over and many passed into obscurity. I would compare this band's sound to Dream Theater. Man would that be an awesome show for those 2 together
|From: Steve T
||Date: July 28, 2002 at 11:28|
|Good album Solid and well played. The synth drum sound gets a little irrtating though but the solo's are excellent. Anyone see the video for No Way with Ally Sheedy? Hilarious. If you lost tracks 4 & 8 it would be a classic.
|From: Steve T
||Date: July 28, 2002 at 11:30|
|Valentine sound NOTHING like Dream Theater. More like Dokken crossed with Journey.....Dream Theater? Never.
|From: Richard H
||Date: October 2, 2002 at 19:40|
|I wouldn't say this is as good as Journey, Obviously they are highly influenced by them.Lead singer Hugo Valenti looks like Steve Perry ,emulates his singing, has a Journey cover band called Evolution,just sang on the new Street Talk project.I'm sure he's pissed off he didn't get to fill Steve's shoes when he left Journey ( as any great singer would feel.)All in all , the c.d. is not a bad effort.Not Coca-Cola classic but diet coke.
||Date: October 13, 2002 at 17:04|
|Simplemente genial... muy buena mezcla de esos teclados guitarras rockeras.
|From: J Scott
||Date: October 19, 2002 at 18:38|
|Good CD to have. Pretty strong tracks. Never said it was gonna be easy is the best and a killer song for a ballad.
||Date: December 16, 2002 at 8:34|
|These guys were as good or even 'BETTER' than any band that came out in the 80's!! It's a crying shame they didn't get the airplay and attention they deserved... One hell of a melodic rock album... I can listen to it all day long, and it was recorded very clean too. My favorite song is 'Someday' ;-)
||Date: December 24, 2002 at 5:25|
|Bought this album when it was released and it's pretty standard fare. Actually sounds like a Vixen cd with male vocals to me. If someone asked about this disc I'd say it's pretty average songs performed above average I guess?.? This is 'perfect' pop metal for 90' but I'd also contend you've heard this all before a billion times these guys just happen to be a little more musically talented than the norm of this genre. If you're a die-hard 'hair' metal fan this is a must have.
||Date: December 30, 2002 at 22:30|
|Really great album!! An american version of Skagarack with a little more edge to the guitars...Love every song on this album..very inspiring melodies...BUY IT!!!
|From: freddy de keyze
||Date: January 9, 2003 at 9:05|
|Great hard driven AOR, this is ! Not average, but class ! No comparisons with Dream Theater too !!! How is it possible to say these two great acts have the same style ? And Hugo does his job very well. Underrated and A Must Have. Listen to opener 'Runnin on luck again' and you know you're in for a great ride. And my good friend Koogles has it wrong this time, this is no glam at all. Koogles, we agree this is a great record, but glam ? ! Straigt ahead AOR, with strong leanings to hard rock.
||Date: January 18, 2003 at 10:26|
|'you'll always have me ' is the best ever love song i've ever heard...
||Date: March 31, 2003 at 11:02|
|I think this one has it all,a really great AOR/Melodicrock album! My favourites songs are, Tears in the Night and Once in a Lifetime.
||Date: April 9, 2003 at 10:16|
|Brilliant CD crystal clear sound big production and Hugos voice make this an absolute classic Aor rock CD. Every track is cool but standout are Runnin on Luck again, Tears in the night, Where are you now and once in a Lifetime. If you Like this go out and grab Hugos 2 solo cds. Jay from Australia.
||Date: October 5, 2003 at 2:53|
|I remember hearing Running On Luck Again on WRIF FM Detroit years ago and thinking wow this is it!! Went and got the cd and still listen to it to this day. I wish this original band would reunite to take us to another level of outstanding rock. So Hugo whaaaas uuuuuup!!!!!!!
|From: AOR freaky
||Date: March 26, 2004 at 4:45|
|Not pure AOR this, more melodic hardrock !, but good anyway ! Great effort and the new Hugo is coming up !
||Date: March 28, 2004 at 10:04|
|i read i metal edge years ago that the guys recorded over a hundred song for that cd i wonder what happened to all those songs
||Date: April 2, 2004 at 0:07|
|Valentine is the a1. Runnin on luck again 1st heard it on WRIF 101.1 Detroit. Loved it.Bought the album and I have it to this day. Still listen to it too. Melodic hard rock in my books
||Date: April 21, 2004 at 23:36|
|All in all a complete overview of what AOR in 1990 is all about when done properly. I don't think you'll hear too many complaints from melodic rock fans. Some instant classics are recognizable, most notably 'Tears In The Night', 'Where Are You Now' and the duo ballads of 'Never Said It Was Going To Be Easy' and 'You'll Always Have Me'. Elsewhere, the strong melodic theme continues with 'Someday', 'We Run' and the cutting 'Runnin' On Luck Again'. All the way through it's a great listen.
||Date: April 24, 2004 at 9:15|
|two words on this album: PURE MAGIC
||Date: May 24, 2004 at 13:17|
|To correct an above comment that HUGO was mad for not getting the Journey gig- is nonsense. J.Cain Keys in Journey was freaked out over his similarities.This album is awesome from track 1 to 11. A classic!
||Date: June 5, 2004 at 13:29|
|A classic. No question about it. Fromt the first to the last track. Later albums from Open Skyz ( same band ) and Hugo (going solo) never came even close to this one. What a shame these guys encountered record deal problems. A MUST HAVE !
||Date: July 2, 2004 at 16:40|
|This album is a must have for any fans of AOR or Melodic Rock... pure classic.. For me the best rocking track is 'No Way', I have the video for this song, and the lyrics make sense as this girl tries to get into the place where the guys are rehersing, but some bodyguards at the doors don't let her... so she tries different customs like a pizza girl, a mail girl.. but she won't get in at all until the end of the video.... Oh I forgot.. the best ballad is ' Never said it was gonna be easy '.... Ch
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 6:08|
|A bunch of men with great talents. But what happened to them ?
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 6:30|
|Another one I might get chopped for, but this was a severely dissapointing album to me. I was expecting a big Heavens Edge style sound with killer songs. Well, there are some great songs but what an awful production job / mix! What did Niel do? The keyboards drown out the rest of the music and vocals, but luckily a few of the songs save the day. 'Runnin' on luck' is a great opener, 'No way' is almost glammy, 'Tears in the night' is s beautiful track and my favourite, 'Where are you know is...
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 6:32|
|...melodic / commercial bliss and the rest of the rockers are pretty cool stabs at commerical rock. The ballads are nice but niether one excited me in any way. It is a good melodic rock CD, but as I say the mix kills it for me. Great vocals, but too many keyboards drowing out the sound. A lot of symbals too. Shame because there are some cool songs. I still think it's a highly over-rated disc, but a good one anyway.
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 6:48|
|Geoff,Its the vocal from Hugo and the over-loaded keyboard textures that make the album.To me,it is a benchmark of a CD,that a lot of bands have tried to emulate,but have not quite made it.....
|From: TIM (2)
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 6:57|
|I'm not getting you here Geoff, it's chock full of killer melodic rock. I've only ever liked one Heaven's Edge song anyway and I think this has better songs and a bigger sound. The mix almost combines the guitar/keyboard sound which makes this sound heavy but melodic, and sounds awesome to these ears. Aside from 'Naughty Girl' and 'Too Much...' it's all killer, with 'Never Said it was Gonna be Easy' a HUGE power-ballad and an all-time fave. It edges the Open Skyz and Hugo's first solo album for
|From: TIM (2)
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 6:59|
|my money, and agree with Wotty that it's a real melodic rock benchmark. Quality stuff. 9.5/10.
||Date: August 25, 2004 at 8:19|
|Well I guess the power of opinion shines through here. I would personally be embarrassed to compare the sound of this to Heavens Edge and Steelheart.Songs aside and sound alone! As for songs, that is personal preference. I personally can pick 5 Heavens Edge and 6 Steelheart(debut) songs better than any tunes from this CD. I do like it, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a nuetral party that would not agree that the sound of Heavens Edge is much more explosive. Valentine has a weak sound
||Date: October 30, 2004 at 19:48|
|One of the best of it's time for this style. 9/10
|From: Nick C
||Date: November 12, 2004 at 6:56|
|IMHO the Steelheart and Heavens Edge releases cannot touch this and although I don't consider it a total classic it is still rather excellent. Killer songs throughout especially 'Never Said it was Gonna be Easy', and I think the mix is reasonably good especially since every release Hugo has been involved with since he went solo has had the vocals WAY too far forward in the mix!! I must admit I prefer the Open Skyz release....must be getting terminally mellow!
||Date: November 12, 2004 at 9:05|
|i think valentine can't be compared with steelheart or heavens edge. it's much more in the aor direction. but no doubt about that: brilliant release with killer melodic songs. 9/10
||Date: November 12, 2004 at 12:36|
|I Love this Cd-I like Steelheart and Heaven's Edge but have to agree that they don't sound alike. This is a true classic. 'Never Said' possibly the greatest ballad ever?
|From: Axe Machine
||Date: November 28, 2004 at 15:44|
|One of the early 90s classics along with gems like Tyketto. Hugo's debut album, and is all of the classic material it is made out to be and more. 11/10. Highly recommended and worth the money for songs like Tears in the Night and Once in a Lifetime alone.
||Date: February 18, 2005 at 14:23|
|GREAT album, check also out Hugos debut album.
||Date: February 23, 2005 at 13:37|
|With more hooks than a bait shop, and with vocals that would make Steve Perry proud, this album is sure to appeal to fans of Red Dawn, Signal, The Storm, and Alias. Not a weak song in the bunch but stand-out tunes for me were Runnin' On Luck Again, Tears In The Night, Too Much Is Never Enough, and Once In A Lifetime. Not as good as Signal's LOUD AND CLEAR, but definitely worth owning. Very classy album, and much better than the Open Skyz project.
||Date: February 24, 2005 at 13:44|
|this is what I love about aor.hard rock, what a great cd!!! Where are you now is the standout to me but too many to list, high vocals and great choruses, what more can u ask for, a great one indeed!!! a standout
||Date: February 24, 2005 at 19:33|
|Killer cd indeed!!I love musicianships and Hugo performance,too.I think the only negative point on thid cd is drums soundin',too bad.Hi-Hat is horrible!!But it's a a must and killer,9.5/10.
||Date: February 25, 2005 at 2:11|
|This is without a doubt an all time killer classic album. If you are into melodic/AOR rock then this is IT. And if you were ever given the choice between a signed original Valentine cd or 24 hrs alone in a bedroom with Carmen Elektra. Lol ok not a fair choice..... Anyways this has quality written all over it. GET YOURSELF A COPY TODAY !
||Date: March 12, 2005 at 8:56|
|wow!!!this is a great album!TEARS IN THE NIGHT use to be my favourite song,it has a monster chorus!!!!the rest of the album is absolutely great too...i'm just a little bit disappointed about the poor production,with an higher budget it should be even better than it is....9/10
||Date: March 19, 2005 at 14:50|
| I new from the first song it was going to be Excellent!!!!!!! A+ all the way!
||Date: April 18, 2005 at 13:00|
|Bona Fide melodic rock perfection. Any comments re bad production here are totally unfounded - this album has a perfect blend of keys/big guitar solos and killer vocals. From brill ballads like 'Never said' to all out rockers like 'Once in a Lifetime' and 'Naughty Girl'. Even a beastiality moment at the beginning of 'Too much..' between horny woman and horse..the mind boggles, where are the wet wipes and the toilet! PS it was the music which gave me an orgasm - honest! 10/10.
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||Date: April 18, 2005 at 13:27|
|Definately Hugo's finest hour, although I do really like the 'Open Skyz' and the Hugo - S/T discs aswell. This is pretty much what the genre is all about, and is one of the 90's outstanding Melodic Hard rock discs(amongst some illustrious company). As with a lot of albums from years gone by, the sound is a little thin, so could do with a good remastering job to bring up the bottom end, which is slightly lacking, otherwise, this is as a near to a 'Classic' disc of the genre as you are gonna get.
||Date: April 18, 2005 at 14:26|
|Amen to that Jez.
||Date: June 21, 2005 at 10:28|
|A classic in my book. Neither all of the Hugo releases or the Open Skyz one ever came close. Top of the bill 90's melodic rock. Doesnot come much better. 9,5/10
||Date: January 31, 2006 at 14:59|
|Boy Howdy!!This really gits da rump a movin....found it on tape cheap...I don't really think it's aor though....more hard melodic metal to me....killer singer,great songs,great guitar..it is a must have!!!!
|Heavy Harmonies Volunteer|
|From: Blue Charvel
||Date: March 31, 2006 at 15:02|
|Great band, great tunes, not so great mix, but you can't have everything. All in all good stuff, I still dig it up now and again. Solid tunes all the way through, if you liked the AORish hard rock of the late 80s/early 90s you'll be plenty happy with this in your collection.
||Date: April 25, 2006 at 23:49|
|I used to have this until my divorce. He took it out of spite I think. I miss the album more than I do him. 'Never said it was gonna be easy' is ten times the song anything Warrant or Bon Jovi topped the charts with. Copies of this are selling for an arm and a leg now so I'm never going to own it again. Highly reccomended if you like your rock and roll mellow but fun.
||Date: April 26, 2006 at 17:09|
|I just found their video to the song 'No way '. I think the girl that feautures in the video was in The Breakfast Club. Not sure tho. Altho i am of the era Love this album !
||Date: July 27, 2006 at 16:59|
|Classic album from start to finish. 9,9/10
||Date: March 26, 2007 at 4:40|
|I don't know why Hugo is marketed as a clone of Steve Perry, he doesn't sound like him...but that's not to say Hugo isn't a good singer or this album isn't good. In fact, AOR wise wthis album is very good, it uses keyboards as prominently as, but not as stylishly as Danger Danger. Track numbers 1, 3 and 5 really stand out for me. If you can find it, it's worth a look.
||Date: July 3, 2007 at 3:26|
|This one totally rocks from start to finish. A Great band who never reached their full potential, if this had of came out 18 months earlier, they would have been the next Warrant or Skid Row. My favorite tracks are, Runnin' on Luck Again, Tears in the Night, Never Said it was Gonna Be Easy, Where Are You Now, Someday, You'll Always Have Me.
||Date: November 18, 2007 at 12:14|
|This is the best album CLASS-METAL!
||Date: March 22, 2008 at 13:13|
|For me, they sound a lot like SIC VIKKI. I think that hasn't mentioned anybody so far. Typically AOR here, nothing special but surely incrediable important to have for an AOR completist. I wouldn't compare this piece of music to SKAGARACK or JOURNEY (first band is better --I wouldn't like the "party version" , second worse cos it's lame AOR as THE STORM ), other above mentioned comparasion might be right. I even add JOE LYNN TURNER's "Recue you" album.
||Date: April 28, 2008 at 21:25|
|Pretty good stuff right here. Once in a Lifetime is a killer tune!!!
||Date: December 9, 2008 at 15:18|
|Ahaha did you hear the last 2008 cd?One of the baddest and poorest reunion in the history!!!Another senseless cd after 20 years...please Valentine guys:stay home.
||Date: August 17, 2009 at 5:19|
|Classy melodic rock from yet another band that just faded away into the wave of grunge. Songs that really stands out is "Tears in The Night" and "Never Said It Was Easy". The video for "No Way" is pretty much amazing, hair-tossing and posing on a high level! 8,5/10 V-gd
||Date: January 2, 2010 at 17:41|
|"you allways have me" kick my fuckin heart...!!! its awesome song!!!
|From: rick kerch vzla
||Date: February 20, 2010 at 17:42|
|This could be one of the best releases of the beginning of the 90's..just before the grunge thing was starting to invade the rock scene...we found here a young Hugo giving us hard driven vocals with passion and melody and the rest of the musicians doing a very fine team work(is Gerard Zappa a relative of you know who?)."Runnin' On Luck Again","Tears In The Night"(great song)"Where Are You Now","Naughty Girl","Once In A Lifetime","Someday"(along with Tears In The Night,one of my favourites)and "We Run".In general line a round album that can please all the lovers of the genre AOR with some edgy Melodic Rock added 2 it.Just buy and enjoy...88/100
||Date: February 3, 2012 at 7:29|
| Too Much is Never Enough is a fine track with a riff remindful of RATT'S Lack of communication but unfortunatelly it washes out towards the end because of all that moaning and tempo -slacking .That could be a kick ass number but is marred by that
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